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wbtczn
Pair


Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 28

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:30 pm    Post subject: Bet or check? Reply with quote

First hand of a SNG...Bet or check the river?

FullTiltPoker Game #207301709: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (1311255), Table 1 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:25:15 ET - 2005/09/04
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to wbtczn [Td Qc]
ajax090 folds
Diggio folds
Plethora-O-Fun folds
azraider folds
daveyacri2003 calls 30
wpb55889 calls 30
wbtczn raises to 90
24BUTTER has 15 seconds left to act
24BUTTER is sitting out
24BUTTER has timed out
24BUTTER folds
poker_pat5000 calls 60
daveyacri2003 calls 60
wpb55889 folds
*** FLOP *** [Js Ac 2c]
poker_pat5000 checks
daveyacri2003 checks
wbtczn bets 150
poker_pat5000 calls 150
daveyacri2003 calls 150
*** TURN *** [Js Ac 2c] [6c]
poker_pat5000 checks
daveyacri2003 checks
wbtczn checks
*** RIVER *** [Js Ac 2c 6c] [Ts]
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Zuchov
Royal Flush


Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 646

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 6:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fold preflop.

But since you didn't, you should clearly go all in vs two other players when you're holding middle pair vs a possible straight and a possible flush, and a likely overpair.

Not meaning to sound like a total *** for the second time today, but how is this even a question?
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GripHoldOn
Message Board Junkie


Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 2098
Location: Boston, MA

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing that you checked and won the pot. You were wondering if you missed a bet perhaps. Check that river. Give yourself a chance to steal this pot without risking anything. You probably wouldn't have gotten called anyway, unless of course you were beat.
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UrbanMeyer1
Royal Flush


Joined: 25 Jun 2005
Posts: 720
Location: Gainesville, FL (The Swamp)

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fold, Fold, Fold forever pre-flop, then fold, fold, fold on all streets.
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wbtczn
Pair


Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Posts: 28

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: The rest of the story Reply with quote

Zuchov - At what point are you saying all in? On the flop?

There are two reasons why I posted it. The first is that I'm never quite sure how much to push a middle pair. By the time I got to the river had to worry about the straight, the flush, and two overcards to my 10. I had made a couple of feeler bets and had not scared everyone away. The second reason is that Urban keeps encouraging posting of hands as a way for all of us to learn.

Grip - nope, I went one dummer and made a bet of 400 to steal the pot. I'm not sure why...had that feeling that they were toast. One of the checkers folded, the other called.

Urban - I typically don't play this hand...but I decided to take a walk on the wild side since I was on the button.

Here's what happened:


poker_pat5000 checks
daveyacri2003 checks
wbtczn bets 400
poker_pat5000 folds
daveyacri2003 calls 400
*** SHOW DOWN ***
wbtczn shows [Td Qc] (a pair of Tens)
daveyacri2003 shows [9h As] (a pair of Aces)
daveyacri2003 wins the pot (1,565) with a pair of Aces
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,565 | Rake 0
Board: [Js Ac 2c 6c Ts]
Seat 1: 24BUTTER (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: poker_pat5000 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 3: ajax090 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Diggio didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Plethora-O-Fun didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: azraider didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: daveyacri2003 showed [9h As] and won (1,565) with a pair of Aces
Seat 8: wpb55889 folded before the Flop
Seat 9: wbtczn (button) showed [Td Qc] and lost with a pair of Tens
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Steve Brecher
Full Tilt Pro


Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 115

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Zuchov
Royal Flush


Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 646

PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: The rest of the story Reply with quote

wbtczn wrote:
Zuchov - At what point are you saying all in? On the flop?


At which ever point makes me sound like more of an ***. I was being sarcastic. You should have folded your hand on every betting round.
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