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StooIC
Taking a Timeout
Joined: 04 Dec 2008
Posts: 943
Location: Looking at you through the glass. Don't know how much time has passed.
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| When you eliminate half the hands in poker (sets, flushes, straights, fullhouses) and can see 4 out of 7 of their cards....makes for a really easy night. If you know any kind of basic math or reading skills you can easily figure out where you are in the hand. Razz is usually limit so mistakes don't punish you as bad. You can wear down a weak opponent with little risk. The game is REALLY easy. Having said that...getting dealt A-2-3 and going Q-Q-K-K REALLY sucks. I HATE RAZZ...I mean I love it. |
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sgspecial
Full House
Joined: 19 Jan 2006
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| StooIC wrote: |
| When you eliminate half the hands in poker (sets, flushes, straights, fullhouses) and can see 4 out of 7 of their cards....makes for a really easy night. If you know any kind of basic math or reading skills you can easily figure out where you are in the hand. Razz is usually limit so mistakes don't punish you as bad. You can wear down a weak opponent with little risk. The game is REALLY easy. Having said that...getting dealt A-2-3 and going Q-Q-K-K REALLY sucks. I HATE RAZZ...I mean I love it. |
Yes, that is it exactly. Hopefully everyone will read and believe this (at least, all of my opponents) |
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Byron Chung
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Joined: 20 Jan 2009
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| razz is a safe way to build ur bankroll |
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D-35-K
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Joined: 04 Mar 2009
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| I agree I play in 10+1 razz tourney with about 50 players I made it to 11th place the first time but a couple A246 low that didnt hit the next three cards took about 60 percent of my chips and I lost out on the same situation when the antes got real high. The next time I played same situation. I played 3-6 ring last night and had to of had the worst hour and a half in my life. I could not get 3 low's at all and when I did it would be A79 in first position with a 4 5 5 3 showing in the next positions. Sometimes it is rough I really believe you get streaks in RAZZ and you have to be patient ride them out and try your dambdest not to tilt |
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sgspecial
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| D-35-K wrote: |
| I agree I play in 10+1 razz tourney with about 50 players I made it to 11th place the first time but a couple A246 low that didnt hit the next three cards took about 60 percent of my chips and I lost out on the same situation when the antes got real high. The next time I played same situation. I played 3-6 ring last night and had to of had the worst hour and a half in my life. I could not get 3 low's at all and when I did it would be A79 in first position with a 4 5 5 3 showing in the next positions. Sometimes it is rough I really believe you get streaks in RAZZ and you have to be patient ride them out and try your dambdest not to tilt |
The same kinds of things happen in other poker games, except there you may have something like AA and get beat by 22 or have trips and the other guy makes a gutshot straight. The "streakiness" of a game can actually be measured by the statistical quantity of "variance", and compared to most other poker games razz is very low variance. |
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surfer bum1
Four of a Kind
Joined: 25 Feb 2008
Posts: 265
Location: America
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| sgspecial wrote: |
| D-35-K wrote: |
| I agree I play in 10+1 razz tourney with about 50 players I made it to 11th place the first time but a couple A246 low that didnt hit the next three cards took about 60 percent of my chips and I lost out on the same situation when the antes got real high. The next time I played same situation. I played 3-6 ring last night and had to of had the worst hour and a half in my life. I could not get 3 low's at all and when I did it would be A79 in first position with a 4 5 5 3 showing in the next positions. Sometimes it is rough I really believe you get streaks in RAZZ and you have to be patient ride them out and try your dambdest not to tilt |
The same kinds of things happen in other poker games, except there you may have something like AA and get beat by 22 or have trips and the other guy makes a gutshot straight. The "streakiness" of a game can actually be measured by the statistical quantity of "variance", and compared to most other poker games razz is very low variance. |
Razz is a game of draws. You can be dealt the best possible razz starting hand, 32A, and still not have a good hand. In Hold'em, if you start with AA, you already have a "made" hand. In razz, your hand is never made until you have five cards low cards. You are constantly gambling on draws, which is why the "bad streaks" that you often get as a Razz player can be oh so very brutal. |
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Kiwi0wn
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Joined: 16 Apr 2009
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Definitely agree with this one, Razz is an easy game to tear apart.
The advantage is that you get to see the majority of your opponents hands, and by working out what their best possible low is by looking at their 3,4,5,6th street, you can already tell if you're winning or not.
<3 Razz |
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1top2pr1
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Joined: 16 Jun 2009
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 WAS up all? I love RAZZ, trnys's better than cash; to much pain on 2/4...3/6. Lost over $100 on back to back hand w/ 1st 4 cards A234. ONLY to get low prs or HI JUNK...till I read a book beside "www.bonusinternetpoker.com" on how to play all ST's DRAWing odds. Like A234Q is a % fav over a made 9low like the (HARD-56789). although i did..CHOP 1st HU (& went on to win) on POKER STARS 1k GTD $10-1 buy in w/ 72 people in it for $225 1st-$275 2nd-$175...I was chipleader for 1st 10min HU but i was slipping and made the deal he was asking from the start...... |
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philiveyfan5
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Joined: 10 Jan 2009
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| If you think of it the game is pretty easy if you just analyze it and learn by watching other players and watch their mistakes. |
How do you know just by watching if a play is a mistake? Granted when someone showing (xx)KQ5 raises it's usually a mistake, but you'd already have to be pretty close to expert to notice the more subtle ones. |
Lol how do you not notice the subtle ones. I guess if you don't pay attention carefully you wouldn't but anyhow. |
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Icangiveualoan
High Card
Joined: 07 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: It not only bout countuing cards and playong good hands. I bout a lot more |
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Hi. It is true that you have more control in razz and can define if you have that winner hand or not. The ring and tournoments are totally different play styles that ramdom from player to player.
I will not enter and discuss ring games. In tournoments you can get burn as hell in just 2 hands. It is true that good players have a greater advantages than those less tactical, spotting those player and just easy chips.
Since the good players are doing the same the competition really starts after a some tenths places before cashing out. Surviving is one thing entering the cashing place is a totally different. Waiting just for goods hand won´t do the cut and even worst is that hand turns like a
wall of bricks falling down to you. Specialing in counting cards won´t do it too, since like holdem the luck may or not be at your side.
Tricky hands can cost you all your good play. In my case I rarely make the entrance into the cashing places, and believe me, I change my strategy to see if that works, and still don´t know why I always got very near but no cash.
Surviving will only make it if you have a good amount of chips that positions you into the middle of the cashing places, If not the case, just start playing and see if luck is by your side, else no game no cash. |
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acustaw
Four of a Kind
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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| Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: It not only bout countuing cards and playong good hands. I bout a lot more |
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| Icangiveualoan wrote: |
Hi. It is true that you have more control in razz and can define if you have that winner hand or not. The ring and tournoments are totally different play styles that ramdom from player to player.
I will not enter and discuss ring games. In tournoments you can get burn as hell in just 2 hands. It is true that good players have a greater advantages than those less tactical, spotting those player and just easy chips.
Since the good players are doing the same the competition really starts after a some tenths places before cashing out. Surviving is one thing entering the cashing place is a totally different. Waiting just for goods hand won´t do the cut and even worst is that hand turns like a
wall of bricks falling down to you. Specialing in counting cards won´t do it too, since like holdem the luck may or not be at your side.
Tricky hands can cost you all your good play. In my case I rarely make the entrance into the cashing places, and believe me, I change my strategy to see if that works, and still don´t know why I always got very near but no cash.
Surviving will only make it if you have a good amount of chips that positions you into the middle of the cashing places, If not the case, just start playing and see if luck is by your side, else no game no cash. |
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ChipStak
Two Pair
Joined: 12 Oct 2009
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Location: California
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| Any chance of a private razz tourney? |
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