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CrazyJoeDavola Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 393
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: For the Razzers that's seen them all |
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I had a hand a few days ago that was truly laughable, I just switched to a laptop and didn't set my save hand histories but I'll try to put it together the best I can recall.
To summarize:
$5 Razz SnG
3 players in the hand
J is the bring-in
I'm second to act (and complete)and have A3 (4 up)
3rd player calls and has a 5 up
Bring-in calls
4th st
Bring-in has a 10, checks
I get a 2, bet
3rd player folds
Bring-in calls
5th st
Bring-in has a 8, checks
I get an A, bet
Bring-in calls
6th st
Bring-in has a 7, checks
I get a 3, bet
Bring-in calls
7th st
Bring-in checks
I get a K, bet
I end up losing to a Q low
with my A234 showing the guy kept calling and ends up winning the damn hand, lol.
I'm sure Scott & others that play alot have seen similar hands, just thought this was obscene Razz play, I guess I should've checked on 7th since I knew this quack wasn't going to budge, lol.
Maybe he pushed the wrong game at buy-in, that's about the only explanation I can come up with. |
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UFO1947 Alien Interrogator
Joined: 08 Jun 2006 Posts: 3143 Location: NS, Canada
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| i had a guy call a raise and then my reraise with 999 showing, i won the hand. |
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guitarguy178 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 24 Jul 2005 Posts: 1859 Location: St. Louis
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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| CrazyJoe, that is a typical $5 Razz SnG. They bring some of the worst players I have ever seen. You know the odds will work out in your favor, but those kinds of hands can just ruin your whole SnG. As soon as he called with the j 10 showing you should have slowed down a bit until you made your hand. I know that doesn't seem like sound strategy, but it saves you a chip or two when morons call you down like that and you brick brick brick. (that only applies to tournaments where odds are less important than chip stacks) |
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AlexScottUK Straight Flush
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 416 Location: Isle of Man
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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I had a similar hand recently (in a $15/$30 cash game no less), only I ended up with a very smooth king low on the river. I had something ridiculous like 5432 showing - he had Q-2-9-8 (after calling with the queen on third).
For some reason, I decided to check the river, and proceeded to kick myself several times after he checked and took the pot with a rough queen.
By the way, how come the bring-in is acting first in your description of this hand? He should be acting after you, not before you. |
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CrazyJoeDavola Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Oct 2005 Posts: 393
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, how come the bring-in is acting first in your description of this hand? He should be acting after you, not before you.
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Right you are Alex, that'll teach me for not checking the save hand history box  |
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LynchCats High Card
Joined: 19 Oct 2006 Posts: 10 Location: New York
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Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: Re: For the Razzers that's seen them all |
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| CrazyJoeDavola wrote: |
I had a hand a few days ago that was truly laughable, I just switched to a laptop and didn't set my save hand histories but I'll try to put it together the best I can recall.
To summarize:
$5 Razz SnG
3 players in the hand
J is the bring-in
I'm second to act (and complete)and have A3 (4 up)
3rd player calls and has a 5 up
Bring-in calls
4th st
Bring-in has a 10, checks
I get a 2, bet
3rd player folds
Bring-in calls
5th st
Bring-in has a 8, checks
I get an A, bet
Bring-in calls
6th st
Bring-in has a 7, checks
I get a 3, bet
Bring-in calls
7th st
Bring-in checks
I get a K, bet
I end up losing to a Q low
with my A234 showing the guy kept calling and ends up winning the damn hand, lol.
I'm sure Scott & others that play alot have seen similar hands, just thought this was obscene Razz play, I guess I should've checked on 7th since I knew this quack wasn't going to budge, lol.
Maybe he pushed the wrong game at buy-in, that's about the only explanation I can come up with. |
That's the problem with small razz sit n go's and freerolls, they'll chase anything and hope you hit. Any good player would have folded by 5th street at the very latest. |
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HalfStackStu Pair
Joined: 26 Oct 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Just today I was raised by someone who had QQJJ showing. People are odd. |
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CrustyFace Pair
Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Posts: 26
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| I found that the best thing to do at the low levels is to wait to you are pretty sure you have them beat before you bet. The standard is so low, not only that but you get alot of people who have never played it before and therefore have no idea what the hell they are doing and play for high. |
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AlexScottUK Straight Flush
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Posts: 416 Location: Isle of Man
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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| CrustyFace wrote: |
| I found that the best thing to do at the low levels is to wait to you are pretty sure you have them beat before you bet. |
I disagree. That strategy may break even or might be slightly profitable, but you'll make more money in the long run by pushing every edge you can get. |
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I HATE CAPS Straight Flush
Joined: 05 Oct 2006 Posts: 357
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| when i play razz my strategy is simple. bet bet bet when i am ahead(based on what i have and what i see of my opponent), check/call if im a little behind but have a good draw, and fold if i know i cant win. is this anywhere near good strategy or am i playing horribly wrong? |
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Big Slick x13x Forum Icon
Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 4137 Location: ROK
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:33 am Post subject: |
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| I HATE CAPS wrote: |
| when i play razz my strategy is simple. bet bet bet when i am ahead(based on what i have and what i see of my opponent), check/call if im a little behind but have a good draw, and fold if i know i cant win. is this anywhere near good strategy or am i playing horribly wrong? |
You're playing straight up, good, solid, abc poker. At the lower levels this is all that's required to turn a profit. The only time you really have to worry about advanced play is if you want to move up to higher limits where everyone knows what they're doing and players can set up huge bluffs or make insanely good calls. |
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asfispimp Message Board Junkie
Joined: 22 Jul 2006 Posts: 1763 Location: vegas
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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| dude thats the worst play Ive ever seen, keep playing that way and you'll win in the long haul so donot worry about it. Whats the guys name? Ill play anyday all day with him. |
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Piney1000 Four of a Kind
Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 298 Location: Crappy State ILL
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:19 am Post subject: |
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If I had a big bank roll you should see the 30/60 game. I have seen some really bad play. I seen Jaconda78t this .
Oh by the way where is Jaconda78 ???? |
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earthslash High Card
Joined: 14 Oct 2006 Posts: 11
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Things like that are certainly frustrating. I lost a hand to someone the other day who thought they were playing Stud instead of Razz. They had a pair of aces showing and kept raising my bets. Somehow they managed to hit an 8 low on 7th street while I hit two pair on the river and only managed a 9 low. The person started asking why they won the pot since I had two pair... eventually someone chimed in telling them the game wasn't Stud. And it was in a $24+2 tournament too. Gotta wonder if people even read before entering some of the games on full tilt. |
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FsuBostonMike Pair
Joined: 10 Nov 2006 Posts: 36 Location: Boston, MA
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Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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| The simple explanation is that...well its a 5$ sng, and with such low stakes your gonna run into alot of players who might not even know how to play the game, I've run into situations on certain sites where a player will reraise every bet/check, showing 2 pair. |
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