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DevilfishFan · Royal Flush Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 906

I really appreciate the fact that he plays with us low limit guys. It's really fun.

Full Tilt Poker Game #969500406: Table Naples - $1/$2 Ante $0.20 - Limit Seven Card Stud Hi/Lo - 23:44:59 ET - 2006/09/04
Seat 1: DevilfishFan ($20.70)
Seat 2: BCM ($28.30)
Seat 3: AnyTrip ($21.30)
Seat 4: MrAces164th ($17.75)
Seat 5: Perry Friedman ($14.80)
Seat 6: helpcomputer ($12.20)
Seat 7: Pokeraddict ($24.65)
Seat 8: ScareyShark ($142.05)
AnyTrip antes $0.20
BCM antes $0.20
ScareyShark antes $0.20
DevilfishFan antes $0.20
MrAces164th antes $0.20
Perry Friedman antes $0.20
helpcomputer antes $0.20
Pokeraddict antes $0.20
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to DevilfishFan [7h 6h] [Ah]
Dealt to BCM [3d]
Dealt to AnyTrip [6s]
Dealt to MrAces164th [8c]
Dealt to Perry Friedman [Jh]
Dealt to helpcomputer [3s]
Dealt to Pokeraddict [As]
Dealt to ScareyShark [Kd]
BCM is low with [3d]
BCM brings in for $0.25
AnyTrip folds
MrAces164th calls $0.25
helpcomputer: and my AQ just lost to A8 in holdem
Perry Friedman calls $0.25
helpcomputer folds
helpcomputer: guess my luck is back
Pokeraddict has 15 seconds left to act
Pokeraddict folds
ScareyShark folds
DevilfishFan completes it to $1
BCM folds
MrAces164th calls $0.75
Perry Friedman calls $0.75
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to DevilfishFan [7h 6h Ah] [8h]
Dealt to MrAces164th [8c] [3c]
Dealt to Perry Friedman [Jh] [6d]
DevilfishFan bets $1
MrAces164th calls $1
Perry Friedman raises to $2
DevilfishFan raises to $3
MrAces164th folds
Perry Friedman calls $1
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to DevilfishFan [7h 6h Ah 8h] [9c]
Dealt to Perry Friedman [Jh 6d] [9h]
DevilfishFan bets $2
Perry Friedman raises to $4
DevilfishFan calls $2
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to DevilfishFan [7h 6h Ah 8h 9c] [4c]
Dealt to Perry Friedman [Jh 6d 9h] [7s]
DevilfishFan bets $2
Perry Friedman calls $2
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to DevilfishFan [7h 6h Ah 8h 9c 4c] [5s]
DevilfishFan bets $2
Perry Friedman calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DevilfishFan shows [7h 6h Ah 8h 9c 4c 5s] (a straight, Nine high)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
(7,6,5,4,A)
Perry Friedman shows [Ks Jd Jh 6d 9h 7s 6c] (two pair, Jacks and Sixes)
DevilfishFan wins the high pot ($13.45) with a straight, Nine high
DevilfishFan wins the low pot ($13.40) with 7,6,5,4,A
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $27.85 | Rake $1
Seat 1: DevilfishFan showed [7h 6h Ah 8h 9c 4c 5s] and won ($26.85) with HI: a straight, Nine high; LO: 7,6,5,4,A
Seat 2: BCM folded on 3rd St.
Seat 3: AnyTrip folded on 3rd St.
Seat 4: MrAces164th folded on 4th St.
Seat 5: Perry Friedman showed [Ks Jd Jh 6d 9h 7s 6c] and lost with HI: two pair, Jacks and Sixes
Seat 6: helpcomputer folded on 3rd St.
Seat 7: Pokeraddict folded on 3rd St.
Seat 8: ScareyShark folded on 3rd St.

Perry had jacks up on 4th, and I had a monster draw. Question, do you call me down with the jacks up? It looks like dry aces or a strong low draw after I raise on 5th with the 9 and just call the reraise. Perry admitted playing the jacks to begin with wasn't a great play, but he had the right read. I didn't have the aces.

Personally, not having near the feel as someone such as Perry, I probably fold on 5th. I'm pretty conservative like that. I really try to avoid going broke with big pairs.

AP KING · Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:11 am Post subject:

Nice hand Devilfish,I bet it felt good scooping a pot against a pro.

AlexScottUK · Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 6:32 pm Post subject:

I posted something similar a while back, about how big the pot should be before you'd automatically call down in hopes of winning half the pot against an obvious freeroll.

Lets say you have kings up and your opponent is showing 234 on fifth, and somehow you know that he has an A-7 in the hole - so he's on a total freeroll. How big does the pot need to be for check-calling to be better than simply folding? Obviously if the pot was 10,000 big bets, you'd call all the way down, and if it was 2 big bets you'd fold.

A mathematically-inclined friend of mine worked out that the pot needed to be just over 10 big bets for it to be worthwhile (he made some assumptions of course). You can read the thread here:

http://hwpoker.myfreeforum.org/ftopic21.php

Of course, we both agreed that it would be better to not get into this situation in the first place!

DevilfishFan · Royal Flush Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 906

Thank you very much. I didn't realize it needed to be THAT big. Very helpful. Factoring in dead cards you can make the proper adjustments as well.

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