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Dave97
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 12:56 pm    Post subject: Looseslots blow up, read all about it Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #943859193: Table Erwin (6 max) - $100/$200 - Pot Limit Omaha - 12:53:44 ET - 2006/08/28
Seat 1: looseslots ($35,066)
Seat 2: SxMxF ($31,812.50)
Seat 3: triplewitch ($40,758)
Seat 4: dazzy ($52,535)
Seat 5: Luck123 ($0), is sitting out
looseslots posts the small blind of $100
SxMxF posts the big blind of $200
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Luck123 stands up
triplewitch calls $200
dazzy folds
looseslots raises to $800
SxMxF calls $600
triplewitch calls $600
*** FLOP *** [7c 3d 2d]
looseslots bets $2,400
SxMxF raises to $9,600
triplewitch folds
looseslots calls $7,200
*** TURN *** [7c 3d 2d] [5d]
looseslots checks
Dave97 (Observer): HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
SxMxF checks
*** RIVER *** [7c 3d 2d 5d] [Qd]
Dave97 (Observer): INTERESTING
looseslots bets $21,600
SxMxF calls $21,412.50, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $187.50 returned to looseslots
*** SHOW DOWN ***
looseslots shows [Ks 9h Kh 4s] (a pair of Kings)
SxMxF shows [Kc 7d Th Ad] (a flush, Ace high)
SxMxF wins the pot ($64,423) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $64,425 | Rake $2
Board: [7c 3d 2d 5d Qd]
Seat 1: looseslots (small blind) showed [Ks 9h Kh 4s] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 2: SxMxF (big blind) showed [Kc 7d Th Ad] and won ($64,423) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: triplewitch folded on the Flop
Seat 4: dazzy didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Luck123 (button) is sitting out
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doug11376
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is only monopoly money to him Smile
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know who he/she is?
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doubledownA
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Benyamine is what Ive read on some blogs....
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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't like Smx's flop call of a pot sized bet with only top pair and a flush draw. That has to be a -EV move overall - unless of course loose has been tilting and betting out at everything.
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jbrennen
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaconda78 wrote:
I don't like Smx's flop call of a pot sized bet with only top pair and a flush draw. That has to be a -EV move overall - unless of course loose has been tilting and betting out at everything.


He didn't just call the pot sized bet, he reraised him a half-pot-sized bet.

looseslots then called that bet with nothing but an overpair, with no straight or flush draw, and with only a single possible card on the turn which would give him the nuts -- the King of clubs. (Little did he know that card was in his opponent's hand...)

How looseslots called that flop raise, I can't figure...
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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jbrennen wrote:
Jaconda78 wrote:
I don't like Smx's flop call of a pot sized bet with only top pair and a flush draw. That has to be a -EV move overall - unless of course loose has been tilting and betting out at everything.


He didn't just call the pot sized bet, he reraised him a half-pot-sized bet.

looseslots then called that bet with nothing but an overpair, with no straight or flush draw, and with only a single possible card on the turn which would give him the nuts -- the King of clubs. (Little did he know that card was in his opponent's hand...)

How looseslots called that flop raise, I can't figure...


Good point - I guess I should really read more carefully before offering my opinion. Sad

And just for the record, I'm definately not saying that I like loose's play - he's clearly on a hardcore tilt.
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Gypsydc
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To some poker is more gambling than anything I guess. I'd love to have his br. I should ask him for a transfer but Jaconda would kick my butt. Dammit Jaconda! I'd give you half ya know. Wink
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DJ Ninjah
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually it's a pretty good move, one I'd actually make myself. Lets think about the play for a second. We'd be VERY safe in assuming looselots has an over pair. In shorthanded PLO, most raises are made only with big pairs and wraps. Looselots was also correct in his bet on the flop. But lets look at this from SMF's point of view. Looselots probably has a over pair. Nut flush and two pair and trips draw gives me 18 outs. I'm a favorite now, and if I bet and he calls, I can probably take the rest of his stack if I hit. Easy push IMO.
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Kloaked Spirit
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DJ's right, this re-raise is fairly automatic in this situation. 20 outs puts you at even money against a set, and it's reasonable that he is not playing a set here, and having 18 outs would give you the odds to continue anyway. If he's playing a huge straight draw from a rundown, you're the favorite. If he's playing the overpair, you're the huge favorite. I love the turn check too. I'd have to think by the river looseslots was just trying to buy the pot and the turn check allowed him to think it was possible.
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Jaconda78
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm ok with the raise - I didn't read carefully enough and thought he called. Although, keep in mind that he can have something else to go with his overpair, such as over pair/top pair, over pair/flush draw (which kills your outs), over pair/gutshot etc.
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Kloaked Spirit
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jaconda78 wrote:
Yeah, I'm ok with the raise - I didn't read carefully enough and thought he called. Although, keep in mind that he can have something else to go with his overpair, such as over pair/top pair, over pair/flush draw (which kills your outs), over pair/gutshot etc.


The only slightly feasible thing he'd be completely behind to in this situation is something like 7765. He's ahead to the Overpair + Gutshot; Overpair + top pair; Overpair + Flush draw; Overpair + Flush Draw + Gutshot. He's barely behind to overpair + OESD (53/47 dog) and slightly less of a favorite to overpair + FD + OESD (56/44 dog). That makes sense since the Ace outs are killed. So yes, if looseslots has exactly Overpair + 45, he may be getting his money bad here without realizing it.

** Random request to move this to the Omaha section **
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