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krazybangs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Another Hand.... Reply with quote

Anpother interesing hand here..... your move is..... ?

Full Tilt Poker Game #922897288: Table Chartered - $0.25/$0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha - 2:49:04 ET - 2006/08/22
Seat 1: No Phil Ivey ($49)
Seat 2: BEvegas ($46.50)
Seat 3: Uncle Omlette ($23.50)
Seat 4: KrazyBangs ($44.35)
Seat 5: XriveredagainX ($20)
Seat 6: Assassyn ($25)
Seat 7: froggiemlm ($40.65)
Seat 8: Crackmasterd ($13.55)
Seat 9: DjeffQ ($47.35)
Crackmasterd posts the small blind of $0.25
DjeffQ posts the big blind of $0.50
XriveredagainX posts $0.50
Assassyn posts $0.50
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to KrazyBangs [Qd Jc 8h 9c]
No Phil Ivey folds
BEvegas calls $0.50
Uncle Omlette folds
KrazyBangs calls $0.50
XriveredagainX checks
Assassyn checks
froggiemlm calls $0.50
Crackmasterd calls $0.25
DjeffQ checks
*** FLOP *** [Jd 7c 8c]
Crackmasterd has 15 seconds left to act
Crackmasterd checks
DjeffQ checks
BEvegas checks
KrazyBangs bets $3.50
XriveredagainX folds
Assassyn folds
froggiemlm folds
Crackmasterd has 15 seconds left to act
Crackmasterd calls $3.50
DjeffQ stands up
DjeffQ folds
BEvegas calls $3.50
*** TURN *** [Jd 7c 8c] [Tc]
Crackmasterd checks
BEvegas checks
KrazyBangs bets $4
Crackmasterd folds
BEvegas raises to $12
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KGBlovesOreos
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely folding here. You wouldn't get reraised here unless you were up against one of two hands:

1. Q-9
2. the flush


Since you already have both a queen and a nine in your hand, it is less likely that your opponent has them. He probably has the flush here, and since there is no way you can improve your hand anymore, your cards should go into the muck.

EDIT: Some people may advise you to call then see what your opponent does on the river, but I myself wouldn't do that. Playing for a split pot is very -EV in this situation since you can never technically WIN any money, but you can potentially lose so much to so many different flushes. Not only is that bad, but a number of cards could come on the river which further devalues your hand.
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krazybangs
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhhh KGB, read my hold cards a little closer...... and you'll see a different issue (folding is NOT an option)
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gogzy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 pair, made flush and str8 flush draw

i reraise and hope he dont have the nut flush

if he does i still got outs to the boat and st8 flush
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asfispimp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dude he has a str8 flush you cant fold Id smooth call and bet 2 thirds of the pot on the river
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gogzy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oops didnt notice he had already made the str8 flush.

in that case yes calling or a very small reraise would be what i did
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asfispimp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gogzy I will be furious if you hit your flush especially if called my allin on a flush draw. unless you were a massage chip leader and did this in holdem I would hate you
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jjpregler
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

asfispimp wrote:
dude he has a str8 flush you cant fold Id smooth call and bet 2 thirds of the pot on the river


Well, we have position on him. So calling is right here as asfispimp has said and if he checks the 2/3 pot is a good bet, but if he bets into you push all in on the river. If he makes any more bets, he should be pot committed for his whole stack.
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gogzy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you would not be the first to hate me and you probably wont be the last Smile Embarassed
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jjpregler
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
you would not be the first to hate me and you probably wont be the last


No, we don't hate you.

yet.


Last edited by jjpregler on Tue Aug 22, 2006 3:01 pm; edited 1 time in total
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asfispimp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx preggler yeah I though he was in first position but definitely push on the river if he bets into you since it is most lkely hell call
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Kloaked Spirit
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reraise. There's nothing here that indicates that he doesn't have the Ace high flush. Your flop bet made it look like you had a straight and were betting out again to hopefully scare people on that turn. Meanwhile he will be looking to get it all in with you anyway as he won't see the straight flush coming and needs to protect his "best hand" from the boat possibilities. You'll take him for every possible cent.
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asfispimp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what if he only has a set or something Id rather extract more on the river.
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clussman
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjpregler wrote:
OP already has the nuts. We are just trying to figure out how to extract the most value.

My post was up for all of 10 seconds before I realized that and deleted it. Damn you JJ! You're too fast.
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asfispimp
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huh??
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