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kingralph281
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 Posted: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:48 am Post subject: little advice on omaha |
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| I am trying to improve my omaha hi game and am struggling a little, I'm aware of basic starategy but i usually play shorthanded(6 person) tables, how much do i loosen up my preflop play.....in otherwords what marginal hands are playable with 6 people on the table |
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Ganjasaurus
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: |
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limp and pot that is the name of the game  |
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gogzy
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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| pre flop you can play pretty much any 4 cards and limp. just be sure to muck on flop if it dont look good |
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asfispimp
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| double suited connectors are good, pocket pairs that are connecting and suited are good sets arents as good unless you fill up because someone most likely will have a flush or str8 thats just a little advice |
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Muskogee Mike
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| For some reason the hand I've done the best with is A-Q suited with two tens or 8s. I don't know why. |
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asfispimp
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| Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Id call it a marginal hand but whatever works works |
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kingralph281
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the advice guys |
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Big Slick x13x
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| The only two real big hands I've had, was when I was Quad suited spades that had KT in it and I would have made a royal. But I folded preflop. The other I had a TJ hand that had 3 clubs made a str8 flush. Got paid off on that one. |
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mathman1115
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:45 am Post subject: |
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| gogzy wrote: |
| pre flop you can play pretty much any 4 cards and limp. just be sure to muck on flop if it dont look good |
I disagree. You can limp with a lot of hands, but not just any hand. You want to play hands that have a good chance to make the nuts or something close to it. High consecutive cards are good and suited Aces and Kings play well. Also, high pairs and even medium pairs.
Hands with low cards are bad. If you hit straits and flushes with them they are likely second best hands. Low pp are bad too, like 22, 33, even 44 or 55. They are likely to hit smaller sets, thus leaving you drawing to one out to a higher set. Remember in omaha a lot of cards are out so it is more likely that a strong hand is needed. |
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Big Slick x13x
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| Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| mathman1115 wrote: |
| Remember in omaha a lot of cards are out so it is more likely that a strong hand is needed. |
I'm so glad that most of the people that I play against don't realize this. This is something you really need to learn to minimize losses. |
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Steamed Rice
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| gogzy wrote: |
| pre flop you can play pretty much any 4 cards and limp. just be sure to muck on flop if it dont look good |
dont listen to this guy
if you limp in with any 4, you'll be losing a lot of money
play hands with nut possibilities, its better to be tight in this game preflop |
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gogzy
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| Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: |
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| Steamed Rice wrote: |
| gogzy wrote: |
| pre flop you can play pretty much any 4 cards and limp. just be sure to muck on flop if it dont look good |
dont listen to this guy
if you limp in with any 4, you'll be losing a lot of money
play hands with nut possibilities, its better to be tight in this game preflop |
my quote was you can play pretty much any 4 cards, now im not saying you can play ANY 4 cards but if the table is allowing you to limp in and see flops for minimum then a wide variaty of hands will do.
it is all about how you play after the flop omaha that makes you money pre flop really dont mean chit espesially at lower limits where half the table will call your preflop raises anyways |
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Muskogee Mike
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For me, some of the best starting hands are high connectors with medium connectors being double suited. That's confusing, so let me give an example:
A  K  7 6
This hand allows you to make the nut spade flush and second nut diamond flush, while giving you a the nut straight possibility as well as a medium to low straight possibility.
In my experience, you hardly see a winning hand that isn't at least trips. There are a lot of straights and flushes in Omaha. Like it was said before, there are a lot more cards out, so you need a stronger hand to win than you do in Texas Hold'em.
Also, instead of the medium to low connectors, a medium pair is nice. For example:
A K 10 10
Now, if a flop like Q 10  4 :spade were to come out, you would be sitting real pretty. You have a set of 10's, the nut flush draw, and the nut straight draw. You probably have the winning hand at the moment, and your hand will probably get stronger. In other words, you will probably win the hand with your set of 10's, but there are 22 cards out there that will improve you to an almost unbeatable hand.
3 Aces: Full house
3 Kings: Full house
3 Queens: Full house
J Straight Flush
3 Jacks: Straight
1 10: Quads
8 spades: Flush (Jack already mentioned)
I love these types of hands! |
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Strasse
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| Muskogee Mike wrote: |
For me, some of the best starting hands are high connectors with medium connectors being double suited. That's confusing, so let me give an example:
A K 7 6
This hand allows you to make the nut spade flush and second nut diamond flush, while giving you a the nut straight possibility as well as a medium to low straight possibility.
In my experience, you hardly see a winning hand that isn't at least trips. There are a lot of straights and flushes in Omaha. Like it was said before, there are a lot more cards out, so you need a stronger hand to win than you do in Texas Hold'em.
Also, instead of the medium to low connectors, a medium pair is nice. For example:
A K 10 10
Now, if a flop like Q 10 4 :spade were to come out, you would be sitting real pretty. You have a set of 10's, the nut flush draw, and the nut straight draw. You probably have the winning hand at the moment, and your hand will probably get stronger. In other words, you will probably win the hand with your set of 10's, but there are 22 cards out there that will improve you to an almost unbeatable hand.
3 Aces: Full house
3 Kings: Full house
3 Queens: Full house
J Straight Flush
3 Jacks: Straight
1 10: Quads
8 spades: Flush (Jack already mentioned)
I love these types of hands! |
Actually, any aces or kings wont improve you to a full house, since you can only play 2 cards from your hand. Aces and kings coming out at this point are actually very bad at this point, as they can give someone else the nut straight. Also, I wouldn't say that a Q coming out would give you an almost unbeatable hand, as many people will often call along with top two, or top and bottom, which in this case would give them Qs full to your 10s full. |
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Muskogee Mike
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| Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| yeah, i'm an idiot sometimes. my bad. but there are still a lot of ways to improve to a better hand, especially against players that think TPTK is going to win. |
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