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HangukMiguk
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:39 pm    Post subject: One of the most retarded hands I've ever seen Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker Game #879542621: Table Evans - $0.25/$0.50 Ante $0.05 - Limit Razz - 15:28:59 ET - 2006/08/09
Seat 1: gagsme ($13.75)
Seat 2: HangukMiguk ($19.65)
Seat 3: whaler55 ($21.35)
Seat 4: Davy 001 ($1.80)
Seat 5: dbrownesq ($17.70)
Seat 7: WhosOnTilt ($3.65)
Seat 8: RoscoBosco ($3.10)
whaler55 antes $0.05
Davy 001 antes $0.05
HangukMiguk antes $0.05
WhosOnTilt antes $0.05
dbrownesq antes $0.05
gagsme antes $0.05
RoscoBosco antes $0.05
*** 3RD STREET ***
Dealt to gagsme [3h]
Dealt to HangukMiguk [2d 5s] [6h]
Dealt to whaler55 [Ac]
Dealt to Davy 001 [4s]
Dealt to dbrownesq [7s]
Dealt to WhosOnTilt [3s]
Dealt to RoscoBosco [Kc]
RoscoBosco is high with [Kc]
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RoscoBosco brings in for $0.10
WhosOnTilt: not you d
gagsme calls $0.10
HangukMiguk completes it to $0.25
whaler55 folds
Davy 001 raises to $0.50
dbrownesq folds
WhosOnTilt calls $0.50
RoscoBosco folds
gagsme has 15 seconds left to act
gagsme calls $0.40
HangukMiguk raises to $0.75
Davy 001 raises to $1
WhosOnTilt calls $0.50
gagsme calls $0.50
HangukMiguk calls $0.25
*** 4TH STREET ***
Dealt to gagsme [3h] [As]
Dealt to HangukMiguk [2d 5s 6h] [9d]
Dealt to Davy 001 [4s] [Ks]
Dealt to WhosOnTilt [3s] [6c]
gagsme bets $0.25
HangukMiguk calls $0.25
Davy 001 calls $0.25
WhosOnTilt raises to $0.50
gagsme calls $0.25
HangukMiguk calls $0.25
Davy 001 raises to $0.75, and is all in
WhosOnTilt: lol, davy all in with k low
WhosOnTilt has 15 seconds left to act
WhosOnTilt calls $0.25
Davy 001: nice pot
gagsme has 15 seconds left to act
gagsme calls $0.25
HangukMiguk calls $0.25
*** 5TH STREET ***
Dealt to gagsme [3h As] [7h]
Dealt to HangukMiguk [2d 5s 6h 9d] [4d]
Dealt to Davy 001 [4s Ks] [Js]
Dealt to WhosOnTilt [3s 6c] [5h]
WhosOnTilt bets $0.50
gagsme calls $0.50
Davy 001: bad timing
HangukMiguk calls $0.50
*** 6TH STREET ***
Dealt to gagsme [3h As 7h] [Tc]
Dealt to HangukMiguk [2d 5s 6h 9d 4d] [2h]
Dealt to Davy 001 [4s Ks Js] [8s]
Dealt to WhosOnTilt [3s 6c 5h] [Qc]
HangukMiguk bets $0.50
WhosOnTilt raises to $1
dbrownesq: but at least u have a nice flush
gagsme has 15 seconds left to act
gagsme calls $1
HangukMiguk calls $0.50
*** 7TH STREET ***
Dealt to HangukMiguk [2d 5s 6h 9d 4d 2h] [Jd]
HangukMiguk checks
WhosOnTilt checks
gagsme checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
WhosOnTilt shows [9s 7c 3s 6c 5h Qc 5c] (9,7,6,5,3)
gagsme shows [Qh 6d 3h As 7h Tc 2c] (7,6,3,2,A)
HangukMiguk mucks
gagsme wins the side pot ($4.35) with 7,6,3,2,A
Davy 001 mucks (Checked hand history, had King high on third)
gagsme wins the main pot ($7.10) with 7,6,3,2,A
Davy 001 adds $5
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Zophar
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could you elaborate on why you feel it was as awful as you do?
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HangukMiguk
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Location: Indianapolis

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zophar wrote:
Could you elaborate on why you feel it was as awful as you do?


1) Seat 4 CAPS with King high. Seat 7 cold calls two bets TWICE with 9-high, and seat one does the same with QUEEN HIGH.
2) I get middled into calling down three bets marginally with the pot odds right, because they just start betting because (the way it looks) it just feels good.
3) When it finally gets to showdown, Seat 1, lucking into a legitimate hand, checks it down!
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jbrennen
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Posts: 422

PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HangukMiguk wrote:
Zophar wrote:
Could you elaborate on why you feel it was as awful as you do?


1) Seat 4 CAPS with King high. Seat 7 cold calls two bets TWICE with 9-high, and seat one does the same with QUEEN HIGH.
2) I get middled into calling down three bets marginally with the pot odds right, because they just start betting because (the way it looks) it just feels good.
3) When it finally gets to showdown, Seat 1, lucking into a legitimate hand, checks it down!


What makes you think that Seat 7 didn't start with (5-7)-3-6, and how do you know that Seat 4 had a King on third? You do realize that the show down and hand history don't actually show you the opponents' original hole cards, right? (It always sorts the three down cards from highest to lowest, even if that ends up displaying the 7th street card in the first position.)

I agree that Seat 1 may have started with a hand like (Q-2)-3, based on the first limp on 3rd street. Or he may have had (6-2)-3, and been considering a check-raise on 3rd street; then when it was completed and raised, he dropped back to just calling. Either way makes sense from subsequent events. Even if he made a 7 on 5th street, he was bet at by somebody who might have had a made 6, so calling the rest of the hand down makes perfect sense.
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Zophar
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HangukMiguk wrote:
Zophar wrote:
Could you elaborate on why you feel it was as awful as you do?


1) Seat 4 CAPS with King high. Seat 7 cold calls two bets TWICE with 9-high, and seat one does the same with QUEEN HIGH.
2) I get middled into calling down three bets marginally with the pot odds right, because they just start betting because (the way it looks) it just feels good.
3) When it finally gets to showdown, Seat 1, lucking into a legitimate hand, checks it down!


I look at seat 4 capping the K high as a short stack seeing alot of action and either isolating to draw out or building a big pot hoping to draw out. Can never be too afraid to play a KA2 if short. Seat 7 possibly called w/9 high, as did you. It seems like no one felt anyone else was strong(reasoning by them unavailable due to lack of previous play), thus attempting to draw to their 4 card lows. Honestly after hitting your 9, I would have been hesitant because so many of your draw cards were up cards. And checking down a 763 is surprising, it isn't unheard of given that many there was a 653 showing and agression shown by him.

It really just looks like a LAG Razz game. I've seen far worse and at higher levels.
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AlexScottUK
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Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Posts: 416
Location: Isle of Man

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HangukMiguk wrote:
2) I get middled into calling down three bets marginally with the pot odds right, because they just start betting because (the way it looks) it just feels good.


Actually if you pay attention to the cards that are out, you'll realise your draw isn't very strong at all. On fifth, you need an A, 3 or perhaps a 7 to make a hand you'll be comfortable with, and there's two aces, two threes and two sevens gone. Given the action, you have to assume that one or two more of the cards you need are buried in your opponents' hands.

This is not a good spot to invest a lot of money. I would probably call given the size of the pot (I can't be bothered to work out whether that would be correct, but I suspect it would be). However, betting on 6th after you missed is just throwing money away.
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