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raxip · Pair Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 47 Location: Dallas, TX

Here's the HH:

FullTiltPoker Game #195751363: Table Silver Sage - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha - 1:01:03 ET - 2005/08/25
Seat 1: Lost Vegas ($0), is sitting out
Seat 2: raxip ($20.10)
Seat 3: Pumpy Tudors ($9.80)
Seat 4: Malvaz ($7.75)
Seat 5: tocski ($23.45)
Seat 8: absolute99 ($1.50)
Seat 9: Cindy Lou Whoo ($1.70)
Cindy Lou Whoo posts the small blind of $0.05
raxip posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to raxip [9h 8d 3s Tc]
Lost Vegas stands up
Pumpy Tudors calls $0.10
Malvaz calls $0.10
tocski calls $0.10
absolute99 folds
Cindy Lou Whoo calls $0.05
raxip checks
*** FLOP *** [Th 8s As]
Cindy Lou Whoo checks
raxip checks
Pumpy Tudors checks
Malvaz bets $0.25
tocski raises to $0.50
Cindy Lou Whoo folds
raxip is sitting out
raxip folds
Pumpy Tudors folds
Malvaz calls $0.25
*** TURN *** [Th 8s As] [4c]
Malvaz checks
tocski bets $0.75
Malvaz calls $0.75
*** RIVER *** [Th 8s As 4c] [Ts]
Malvaz checks
tocski checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tocski shows [Ah Jh 8c 4s] (two pair, Aces and Tens)
Malvaz mucks
tocski wins the pot ($2.85) with two pair, Aces and Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $3 | Rake $0.15
Board: [Th 8s As 4c Ts]
Seat 1: Lost Vegas is sitting out
Seat 2: raxip (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: Pumpy Tudors folded on the Flop
Seat 4: Malvaz mucked [2d Ad 8h 6c] - two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 5: tocski showed [Ah Jh 8c 4s] and won ($2.85) with two pair, Aces and Tens
Seat 8: absolute99 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Cindy Lou Whoo (small blind) folded on the Flop

The people at this table typically raise preflop with AA in any position (not sure about Tudor though) and get pretty aggressive with trips if they have it, so I wasn't really concerned with that; all I was concerned with was a higher two pair (A high) and a flush draw (which I wouldn't have had any part of).

Comments?

GripHoldOn · Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:50 am Post subject:

Definite fold here. You don't have any draws to a higher hand, and your chances of having the best hand here are low. If you do have the best hand you're probably a dog because there are a lot of potential draws out there.

raxip · Pair Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 47 Location: Dallas, TX

Figured this was an easy call, but it just sucked to see my cards come up on the river Rolling Eyes

KGBlovesOreos · Moderator Joined: 28 Jun 2005 Posts: 5318 Location: VA

when you play omaha and you have something mediocre like 2 pair, you need to have some sort of draw to protect that hand... omaha is a game of action and drawing, so you must be able to protect hands by having a draw yourself...

PS, having two pair in omaha is like having one pair in hold em... most of the time, its just no good when there are 3-5 ppl in the hand

UrbanMeyer1 · Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:15 pm Post subject:

Re-draws are god!

RamoneDastone · Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject: two pair

Good fold on the flop. I just wanted to mention that it was a nice play to make given the fact that you were playing out of the BB in an unraised pot. You could throw the bottom two pair away and lose the ten cents for your post. Or you can go forward with a marginal hand and bad draw(for under full house, which may not be any good) and lose more chips than you would like too lose, with a hand you probably wouldn't be in there with by choice. I can remember more than a few times losing a lot of chips because I flopped the best hand from the blind, and tried to protect it when I was either a small favorite or an underdog to win, and it just didn't hold up. Sucks to see it would have won, but I'm sure as you develop your confidence,and reading abilities of your oppenents you will know when your marginal hands are best, and recognize the profitable situations they will sometimes provide.

zipster987 · Four of a Kind Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 278

One thing nobodys mentioned...the guy did have A8, so he flopped a higher 2 pair then you, so in this case it DEFINATLY was the right play. I agree with everyone else though, u cant really play that hand down with any confidence, and you definatly shouldnt be making crying calls from the flop

JetsFan28 · Royal Flush Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 799 Location: NY

in omaha it is sometimes ok to fold 2 pair for u good fold and it ended out for the better

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