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cheecho
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 Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:34 pm Post subject: How do I get people off their draw? |
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I have been getting really pissed off at these guys hitting draws on me when I'm out of position with the best hand.
Example: .50/1.00 in the SB w/ 8  10  , 3 callers + the blinds limp. Flop is J  7 9  . I bet out hoping to get raised, so I can re-raise. I get 2 callers, so I am putting 1 of them on the flush draw the other a str8 draw and/or bottom pair. Turn is 6 , I bet out as to not give any free cards. 1 caller - I have him pegged on the flush draw. River 2 - I fugure he got it - and check/call to his flush.
This hand happened to me today - but seems to be a common problem when out of position.
Is there anything that I can do, or is that just the way it is with limit? due to the high pot odds with multiple callers.
Thanks for any expert advise. |
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griffinlord
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Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Okay...fifth try to post a response....let's see if it works 
Why do you want them off their draws?
In limit you are trying to push small edges to earn a long-term profit. Rather like the casino at craps or blackjack. In craps the pass line is a win for the casino about 51% of the time. Over a short period of time say 10 - 20 games, the dice may go against the house giving them a short-term loss. But over 10,000 games the casino wins almost exactly 5100 times...which is a net of 200 wins.
Limit is played the same way. After the flop you were roughly a 60% favorite and an 80% favorite on the turn. You want these guys calling your bets...especially that turn bet because you are going to win it 80% of the time.
But you are going to lose it 20% of the time.
What is different about limit vs no limit is that because bet sizes are fixed both you and your opponent may have correct odds for playing the hand exactly as you did. If there is enough money in the pot, he has odds to call even though you are ahead. And because you are ahead you want as much additional money in the pot as possible. |
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cheecho
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griffinlord - that could not have been explained any better. I love the analogy.
Thanks |
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