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Online Poker Forum - Limped Pot - Hit top pair - Bet or check/call River?

 
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Honest_Rob
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:07 pm    Post subject: Limped Pot - Hit top pair - Bet or check/call River? Reply with quote

Which river play do you like better? No one has shown any interest in betting. It's very likely we have the best hand. Do we expect to be called by worse hands often or is check/calling better to give our opponents a chance to bluff?

Full Tilt Poker Game #6286549992: Table Topaz - $0.50/$1 - Limit Hold'em - 15:56:40 ET - 2008/05/04
Seat 1: account39 ($42.95)
Seat 2: joba2mo ($11.90)
Seat 3: Allvarb ($9.50)
Seat 4: FithStr33t ($40.85)
Seat 5: Chnuschperli ($37.65)
Seat 6: Honest_Rob ($17.15)
Seat 7: homebound04 ($84.65)
Seat 8: loseformenow ($20.85)
Seat 9: DaBatman1 ($35.40)
FithStr33t posts the small blind of $0.25
Chnuschperli is sitting out
Honest_Rob posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Honest_Rob [7d Ac]
homebound04 folds
loseformenow has 15 seconds left to act
loseformenow folds
DaBatman1 calls $0.50
account39 folds
joba2mo folds
Allvarb calls $0.50
FithStr33t folds
Honest_Rob checks
*** FLOP *** [Jc 9d 4c]
Honest_Rob checks
DaBatman1 checks
Allvarb checks
*** TURN *** [Jc 9d 4c] [Ah]
Honest_Rob checks
DaBatman1 checks
Allvarb checks
*** RIVER *** [Jc 9d 4c Ah] [9h]
Honest_Rob

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Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
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Pre-Flop: 7Diamond AClub dealt to Hero (BB)
2 folds, MP1 calls, 2 folds, BTN calls, SB folds, Hero checks

Flop: (3.5 SB) JClub 9Diamond 4Club (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, BTN checks

Turn: (1.75 BB) AHeart (3 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, BTN checks

River: (1.75 BB) 9Heart (3 Players)
Hero
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Cattivo
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's worth a Value Bet there. If you're raised, you should probably fold.

If you bet on the turn when you hit the Ace, you might have gotten more information. A 9 or a 4 might have called you, thinking you were betting to take down the pot because a scare card hit. Then if they raised your value bet on the river, you would definitely know you were rivered.
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Riddim
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bet turn, bet river. People call with any pair and probably K-high as well a decent amount of the time once you check turn, so I definitely think it's a bet as played as well despite the semi-ugly river card.
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fire_eyes_2k
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well you have to bet the river. It's the turn that confuses me slightly. Are you checking cos you're waiting to c/r with the best hand? Or trying to keep the pot small. (I hate the c/r as you won't get called by hands you beat). Nobody has shown strength preflop so you're usually ahead there with the ace.

So my preferred line is bet turn, bet river. But if you really want to be tricky, you can check-call someone on the turn to let them bluff, then donk the river for value.
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Honest_Rob
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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry I left out key info. I usually post hands while I'm playing so I'm only half paying attention. The reason I checked the turn was because the table had been very aggressive particularly alvarb and I really thought he would bet the turn with anything. I was going to call and bet river in an attempt to get an extra bet but it backfired. Considering that the players are aggressive stabbing at pots a lot I then thought since they checked the turn they probably don't have much of anything and I doubt they call a river bet. I'm not worried about the 9 at all. A 9 would have definitely bet flop or turn. So then I started to think is leading the river best when I really doubt they call. Maybe checking is best because they still may finally decide to bluff.
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