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PJs Ronin
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OP, of the three laptops listed I'd definitely say Option B, simply because of the larger screen size. Personally I'd get sick of playing poker/writing documents/etc on a 11.6" screen. And you're especially not going to want to watch movies on it.
With that said though there are lots of other laptops out there on websites mentioned as well as other various websites, so you might want to look around a bit more before buying. There are lots of 15.6" laptops out there within your price range, and I've noticed lots of sales going on lately especially with Windows 7 coming out... which you'll probably want to make sure to get as well.
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| With laptops there are only 2 considerations... screen and battery. |
lol yeah. Hard drive size, processor, video card, RAM, etc. don't matter at all. |
HD Size... a small drive these days is 80Gb. In 25 years in the IT field I have neva filled a HD. HD speed is more important than size.
Processor. Doesn't taker much of a CPU to run FTP client, MS Word or a browser.
RAM. Can always be upgraded... harder to upgrade the screen and/or battery.
Video card... will determine the screen performance, hence my original comment about seeing the system in operation. |
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cubbies760
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It seems like fukcin' is the only cuss word that would apply, and IIRC, you don't cuss much. That must be a rockin' piece of technology. |
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renegades8
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| renegades8 wrote: |
OP, of the three laptops listed I'd definitely say Option B, simply because of the larger screen size. Personally I'd get sick of playing poker/writing documents/etc on a 11.6" screen. And you're especially not going to want to watch movies on it.
With that said though there are lots of other laptops out there on websites mentioned as well as other various websites, so you might want to look around a bit more before buying. There are lots of 15.6" laptops out there within your price range, and I've noticed lots of sales going on lately especially with Windows 7 coming out... which you'll probably want to make sure to get as well.
| PJs Ronin wrote: |
| With laptops there are only 2 considerations... screen and battery. |
lol yeah. Hard drive size, processor, video card, RAM, etc. don't matter at all. |
HD Size... a small drive these days is 80Gb. In 25 years in the IT field I have neva filled a HD. HD speed is more important than size.
Processor. Doesn't taker much of a CPU to run FTP client, MS Word or a browser.
RAM. Can always be upgraded... harder to upgrade the screen and/or battery.
Video card... will determine the screen performance, hence my original comment about seeing the system in operation. |
HD speed is pretty constant no matter what laptop you get. It's hard to find laptops with various HD speeds. Why do you think it's become so popular to increase HD sizes if no one ever fills them up? You're pretty dumb imo if you're going to upgrade laptop RAM. It's way more expensive to upgrade and it's not as easy as a desktop. Especially saying that it's easier than just going out and buying a battery.
I kinda agree with some of the things you're saying but the general statement you made isn't true in that many situations at all, making it a bad general statement. |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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It seems like fukcin' is the only cuss word that would apply, and IIRC, you don't cuss much. That must be a rockin' piece of technology. |
Yeah, I'm lovin' it. I originally bought an Asus EeePC 1005HA, which I also loved, but I ended up selling it so I could get the Acer AS1410. I originally bought it thinking it would be part of the Timeline series, like the European model is, but it's not. The batter lasts less than the European model, but everything else is the same. Nice screen, faster than an Atom netbook, Windows 7, and an HDMI port. Getting an LCD tv for Christmas, so I'll be able to use it. |
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PJs Ronin
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| PJs Ronin wrote: |
| renegades8 wrote: |
OP, of the three laptops listed I'd definitely say Option B, simply because of the larger screen size. Personally I'd get sick of playing poker/writing documents/etc on a 11.6" screen. And you're especially not going to want to watch movies on it.
With that said though there are lots of other laptops out there on websites mentioned as well as other various websites, so you might want to look around a bit more before buying. There are lots of 15.6" laptops out there within your price range, and I've noticed lots of sales going on lately especially with Windows 7 coming out... which you'll probably want to make sure to get as well.
| PJs Ronin wrote: |
| With laptops there are only 2 considerations... screen and battery. |
lol yeah. Hard drive size, processor, video card, RAM, etc. don't matter at all. |
HD Size... a small drive these days is 80Gb. In 25 years in the IT field I have neva filled a HD. HD speed is more important than size.
Processor. Doesn't taker much of a CPU to run FTP client, MS Word or a browser.
RAM. Can always be upgraded... harder to upgrade the screen and/or battery.
Video card... will determine the screen performance, hence my original comment about seeing the system in operation. |
HD speed is pretty constant no matter what laptop you get. It's hard to find laptops with various HD speeds. Why do you think it's become so popular to increase HD sizes if no one ever fills them up? The price of HDs has been dropping at phenomenal rates for years now. Essentially, the laptop manufacturers can offer bigger drives at the same price so that makes it a selling point. Customers think they're getting more bang for their buck. It's a bit like getting 20, instead of 10 cupholders in your SUV... BFD*!
You're pretty dumb be careful who you're calling dumb as I'm not always a nice sensitive kinda guy... specially when it comes to puters. imo if you're going to upgrade laptop RAM. It's way more expensive to upgrade and it's not as easy as a desktop. The price of RAM has also fallen to ridiculously low levels, so the stick cost is not significant. As to adding it to a laptop:
1. Turn the laptop over.
2. Remove the battery (typically a push button realease),
3. Remove Mem cover (typically 4 screws but can be as few as two)
4. Insert (or remove old stick first) new stick.
5. Replace MEM cover.
5. Re-insert battery.
Total time... about 4 minutes in you include a beer.
For a Desktop:
1. Disconnect monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse, printer cable and any other peripherals.
2. Extract puter from underneath desk and lay on it's side.
3. Remove side cover,
4. Pray to Christ that back end of HD/CD/DVD does not cover RAM slots.
5. If necessary, release restraints on CD/DVD/HD and slide to max forward position.
6. Pry power cables out of the way exposing RAM bank.
7. Insert new (remove old if necessary) stick.
8. Secure CD/DVD/HD to original position,
9. Replace side cover.
10 Place puter back under..... well, you get the idea.
Especially saying that it's easier than just going out and buying a battery. I have no idea what you mean. It's not just a case of finding a battery store (Ebay maybe), but of finding a battery with enough cells to provide usable up time. Battery prices have not fallen much and most battery shells are custom made for the particular laptop chassis. So if your laptop only comes with a 6 cell battery, then guess what Sherlock, you're SOL getting an 8 cell with longer up time.
I kinda agree with some of the things you're saying but the general statement you made isn't true in that many situations at all, making it a bad general statement. I'm happy to debate IT with you till the cows come home. Just be careful of the invective. |
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VRod105
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If you ever need to upgrade RAM try crucial.com.
BNS the netbook option is really a good one unless you have middle aged eyes like me, but hook it up to my 24" external monitor and it rocks. |
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BOYNAMEDSUE
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: |
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True dat. The 11.6" netbook/ultra-compacts cram 1366x768 resolution onto the screen.
I'm fine with it, but I used to eat carrots like potato chips as a kid. |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| PJs Ronin wrote: |
| renegades8 wrote: |
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| renegades8 wrote: |
OP, of the three laptops listed I'd definitely say Option B, simply because of the larger screen size. Personally I'd get sick of playing poker/writing documents/etc on a 11.6" screen. And you're especially not going to want to watch movies on it.
With that said though there are lots of other laptops out there on websites mentioned as well as other various websites, so you might want to look around a bit more before buying. There are lots of 15.6" laptops out there within your price range, and I've noticed lots of sales going on lately especially with Windows 7 coming out... which you'll probably want to make sure to get as well.
| PJs Ronin wrote: |
| With laptops there are only 2 considerations... screen and battery. |
lol yeah. Hard drive size, processor, video card, RAM, etc. don't matter at all. |
HD Size... a small drive these days is 80Gb. In 25 years in the IT field I have neva filled a HD. HD speed is more important than size.
Processor. Doesn't taker much of a CPU to run FTP client, MS Word or a browser.
RAM. Can always be upgraded... harder to upgrade the screen and/or battery.
Video card... will determine the screen performance, hence my original comment about seeing the system in operation. |
HD speed is pretty constant no matter what laptop you get. It's hard to find laptops with various HD speeds. Why do you think it's become so popular to increase HD sizes if no one ever fills them up? The price of HDs has been dropping at phenomenal rates for years now. Essentially, the laptop manufacturers can offer bigger drives at the same price so that makes it a selling point. Customers think they're getting more bang for their buck. It's a bit like getting 20, instead of 10 cupholders in your SUV... BFD*!
You're pretty dumb be careful who you're calling dumb as I'm not always a nice sensitive kinda guy... specially when it comes to puters. imo if you're going to upgrade laptop RAM. It's way more expensive to upgrade and it's not as easy as a desktop. The price of RAM has also fallen to ridiculously low levels, so the stick cost is not significant. As to adding it to a laptop:
1. Turn the laptop over.
2. Remove the battery (typically a push button realease),
3. Remove Mem cover (typically 4 screws but can be as few as two)
4. Insert (or remove old stick first) new stick.
5. Replace MEM cover.
5. Re-insert battery.
Total time... about 4 minutes in you include a beer.
For a Desktop:
1. Disconnect monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse, printer cable and any other peripherals.
2. Extract puter from underneath desk and lay on it's side.
3. Remove side cover,
4. Pray to Christ that back end of HD/CD/DVD does not cover RAM slots.
5. If necessary, release restraints on CD/DVD/HD and slide to max forward position.
6. Pry power cables out of the way exposing RAM bank.
7. Insert new (remove old if necessary) stick.
8. Secure CD/DVD/HD to original position,
9. Replace side cover.
10 Place puter back under..... well, you get the idea.
Especially saying that it's easier than just going out and buying a battery. I have no idea what you mean. It's not just a case of finding a battery store (Ebay maybe), but of finding a battery with enough cells to provide usable up time. Battery prices have not fallen much and most battery shells are custom made for the particular laptop chassis. So if your laptop only comes with a 6 cell battery, then guess what Sherlock, you're SOL getting an 8 cell with longer up time.
I kinda agree with some of the things you're saying but the general statement you made isn't true in that many situations at all, making it a bad general statement. I'm happy to debate IT with you till the cows come home. Just be careful of the invective. |
* Big Fvcking Deal |
I agree that new parts are getting cheaper and everything, but all I was really saying is that the statement "With laptops there are only 2 considerations... screen and battery." seems pretty inaccurate. I'd find myself pretty retarded to go out and buy a laptop just for screen and battery size, only to find out it has a terrible video card, processor, barely any RAM, and an 80gb hard drive. You're making it sound like 80gb is huge and impossible to fill. If you ask everyone on this forum I'm sure most of the people on here would say they have more than 80gb of stuff on their HD.
Why would you want to buy some mediocre laptop only to have to blow a bunch of money on new parts shortly after? Suddenly you're going to put so much money into it that you might as well just have bought a new laptop. I can't see many people wanting to constantly be upgrading parts when they could have just bought a solid laptop in the first place. |
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PJs Ronin
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| i didn't suggest anyone go buy a mediocre laptop. I pointed out that the two most important aspects of any laptop are those that cannot be changed, eg screen and (typically) battery. Most other components can be upgraded if necessary. Get those two aspects right for your circumstances and most of the remaining elements can be made to fit. |
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renegades8
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:48 am Post subject: |
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| i didn't suggest anyone go buy a mediocre laptop. I pointed out that the two most important aspects of any laptop are those that cannot be changed, eg screen and (typically) battery. Most other components can be upgraded if necessary. Get those two aspects right for your circumstances and most of the remaining elements can be made to fit. |
You didn't say "the most important aspects," you said "there are only two considerations." Two totally different things. |
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TedyKGB17
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| How many tables do you want to play without overlap? |
on the laptop... prob 2, 4 max. |
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TedyKGB17
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| I have bought a total of 5 laptops on eBay, and never spent more than $300. Three I have gotten for $200 or less. The secret to eBay is just to buy from someone with a great seller rating. You can customize your search to get exactly what you want too. |
I've never bought a laptop on eBay, but I did buy a laptop batter, and a camcorder battery. Both times I saved a nice chunk of change, and didn't have to pay shipping. |
What about a warranty? I assume a comp over Ebay wont offer a warranty. Should i be worried about that? |
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VRod105
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| Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Tedy, Check out www.cnet.com they are posting laptop reviews all the time.
Anything with a xxxxx X 768 resolution will allow you to 4 table but the smaller the screen the harder it is to see and a HUD might make it unusable. I can tile 4 tables on my 11.5" netbook but they are very small. |
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