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Pokergal812
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 Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: JJ - play? |
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not sure... kind of still early, have no clear read on opponent the one or two times he showed down cards, they were solid...
Do you 3 bet pre? Do you lead out on that flop with c bet? Or do you - c/fold?
Full Tilt Poker, NL Hold'em Tournament, 30/60 Blinds, 8 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
SB: 1,230
BB: 1,665
UTG: 1,780
UTG+1: 1,825
Hero (MP1): 2,070
MP2: 1,425
CO: 1,405
BTN: 2,100
Pre-Flop: (90) Jh Jd dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, Hero raises to 220, MP2 folds, CO raises to 380, 3 folds, Hero calls 160
Flop: (850) 6s As Td (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets 1,025 and is All-In, Hero --
Basically I'm assuming with the preflop reraise AK/AQ something like that... guess he could make that move with 10 / 10 pre-flop and he has the position to C-bet on flop... not sure.
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cardfish2
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 6:38 am Post subject: |
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The min raise by your opponent would make me real nervous here. Once that happens I am playing for set value here. If I don't hit the jack I am folding to the all in. Technically i don't think you can c-bet when you call the PF reraise, but however you want to look at it I would not lead the flop here.
As far as what he has here, I don't think he shoves the flop if he has an ace. He loses value most of the time because people are folding. I'd say KK or QQ if I had to guess. He then got scared when the flop hit and donk shoved.
The way opponent played makes me believe he is a donk, so it's hard to do more than guess on his hand unless you have some more history on him. |
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Pokergal812
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks... you are right KK / QQ might make more sense or he had big Ace and was happy to just protect his little pot and pick it up - he seemed like a scared player, so I grew to believe, probably the best move was to get away from hand. I later saw him limp in with big hands like AA, and then timidly check it all the way down just to let the big blind do something with their 8-3 OS by the river. It was strange. Or he was a genius. Not sure. Ha. |
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NilesMonkey
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| Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject: |
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Raise a little less preflop. 3XBB is usually good if you're first in; anything more and you're taking an unnecessary risk.
Folding to the shove is standard here. He either had you preflop or most likely has you now.
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| I later saw him limp in with big hands like AA, and then timidly check it all the way down just to let the big blind do something with their 8-3 OS by the river. It was strange. Or he was a genius. Not sure. Ha. |
Most likely, he's riddled with Fancy Play Syndrome. He would have been better off just raising and maybe getting a caller or two PF. |
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aarosakura
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 5:39 am Post subject: |
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| NilesMonkey wrote: |
Raise a little less preflop. 3XBB is usually good if you're first in; anything more and you're taking an unnecessary risk.
Folding to the shove is standard here. He either had you preflop or most likely has you now.
| Pokergal812 wrote: |
| I later saw him limp in with big hands like AA, and then timidly check it all the way down just to let the big blind do something with their 8-3 OS by the river. It was strange. Or he was a genius. Not sure. Ha. |
Most likely, he's riddled with Fancy Play Syndrome. He would have been better off just raising and maybe getting a caller or two PF. |
i was thinking around about this post. |
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lovebeefstew
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| Pre is ok. I'd raise slightly less but it's not too bad. Fold the flop easily. |
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bleffo19
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| Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 7:49 am Post subject: |
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| NilesMonkey wrote: |
| Raise a little less preflop |
lol one of the first times i've ever seen someone say raise less. usually people are saying raise more.
but yer - do raise less. 180 is fine. don't get into the habit of raising your bigger hands more, because good players will pick up on this and adjust accordingly. c/f flop is fine as well. case could be made for folding pre but readless im happy just calling |
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