Online Poker Forum - First hand KK all-in Netherlands freeroll correct play?

lurgertor · Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:21 pm Post subject:

Yep bad beats happen, but poker is not about winning a hand or even a tournament, its about making good decisions and the theory is when you are consistenly making those good decisions you will start seeing yourself going deeper in those tourneys and maybe even cashing. So don't trust the aces to hold up in one hand, but trust them to hold up the most of the time and by getting your money in good you will become a winner, statistically its enevitable.

Boomshakaboom · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:50 am Post subject:

yup freeroll always shove...lol if bored shove ur first 8 hands (dont veen look) you'll either be bust or have a very nice stack to wort with

tracysanders · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:58 am Post subject:

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:00 am Post subject:

Thebestinpoker1 · High Card Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 15

Danduy · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 10:56 am Post subject:

lovebeefstew · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:02 am Post subject:

OPEN SHOVE THIS THEN PUMP THOSE FISTS!!!!

Thebestinpoker1 · High Card Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 15

NilesMonkey · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:45 pm Post subject:

Our comments on these hands are not going to help you improve your game.

Post hands that you actually need input on, not bad-beat hands.

tracysanders · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject:

OK I'll try again

QQ hand- you have 2.5M, this is shove/fold mode

max button- click where it says 26705

Other 2 are snapfolds, but all hands when your stack is this lowis shove/fold

see Rhys Pharlows thread on "M" in the beginners section for help.

Thebestinpoker1 · High Card Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 15

Thebestinpoker1 · High Card Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Posts: 15

tracysanders · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:53 am Post subject:

If I were you I would post hands you were unsure of, hands where you think you folded the best hand, hands that in hindsight you think you should have folded. Don't get me wrong coolers happen sometimes you will run your KK into AA, and there's really no way to avoid that in most cases because it's all about ranging your opponents hands andthey will normally play JJ,QQ,AK the same way they play AA in most cases at your level.

I really had an issue with your attitude at first, because we were trying to help and you kept arguing while never giving any thought process to back up your arguements- but if you are honestly wanting and willing to accept help I will do my best.

Bottom line- FREEROLL, Monster, shove when it gets to you/ occasionally they will all fold, occasionally you will lose the hand- this is the game we play. You will not win every time you get it in with the best hand (before the river obv), but you cannot be afraid to get it in on any street either. The reason I say to shove preflop is simple---- 90% of the time you will be called by worse.

Your argument that you still would've lost is irrelevant though, because the RNG (shuffler) FTP uses is constantly shuffling- any change in timing will affect the upcoming cards on the board. So yes this means if you fold 27 offsuit and the flop comes 227- you would not have had a full house because the board would have been different.

Best advice I can give you is fold the garbage hands, for the most part- play your big hands hard and strong- limp behind with small-mid pps as longas it is under 1/15 of your stack to try and setmine.

Danduy · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject:

Trancysanders has placed some good advice there.

But you will be overwelmed with precentages, m-factors, position. Don't get me wrong here when i tell you are a novice player. You can post hundred of hands that you played and ask for advice from other players and still don't know what to do. There is no ready to go advice for playing poker and win the game, but off course, the more knowledge you have, the better you will be playing IF used correctly.

The bottom line is, there is no substitute for experience.

I know that you want to play hands and play poker. But like the last two hands posted here, like Tracy mentioned, are easy folds. And QQ in the first... Like before, you where already commited so a shove would be in place there.

Pokergal812 · Full House Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 153 Location: Jersey

you played the original hand fine... KK -- you're not folding... on a flop with a set of kings all the money is going in anyway and the guy would've called (or been the one to push with his nut flush draw) and either way your set would've been busting you out of the tournament. Plus, dude... we are all keen on winning... I don't care if I'm playing for fake money, real money or potato chips... I want to win but in poker, you can't always win and folding KK preflop in a freeroll is just a big fat mistake.

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