Online Poker Forum - Durrrr question

straight4life · Pair Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

I'm getting tired of Phil Hellmuths big mouth and I want someone to stop it.
Why can't Phil and Tom Dwan play 10 000 hands together to find out who's the best? Similar to the challenge with Patrik Antonius

I'm pretty sure Dwan would beat him up

umarplus · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 12:03 pm Post subject:

im pretty sure Phil would find a silly excuse, why he still is the best. Wink

this said: i adore Phil. hes a legend and one of the greatest alltime poker players!

straight4life · Pair Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

UFO1947 · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject:

I used to hate Phil, but I like him now. He's just a cry baby at times, I think it's how he gets rid of tilt.

11 WSOP bracelets, probally the best tournament player in the world.

straight4life · Pair Joined: 27 Oct 2007 Posts: 36

nekotec · Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:10 pm Post subject:

great tournament player but a really mediocre one in cash games

Dwan would pwnd him

fat rugger · Royal Flush Joined: 06 Feb 2009 Posts: 787

He is a great player. It is difficult to deny that.

But he is just such an As$... The way he holds his sun glasses in his mouth makes me want to punch the TV.

I suppose that is part of his whole table image though.

junkbutton · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:46 pm Post subject:

If they played HU NLHE tourney style, no rebuys, increasing blind structure, etc, Phil would win 8 times out of 10. HU cash game, any game, any stakes, Durr would win 9.5 times out of 10. Phil just doesn't have the mindset for the cash game or the ability to adjust to it (at least in the short term, he's amazing enough to improve his cash game play to be the best, but he's more focused on his brand rather than his play unfortunately...).

This mindset was on display recently in the chat transcipt that was posted on hoss_tbf's blog. I never heard of him before, but I guess he's a pretty big deal. I lost a lot of respect for Phil after reading this transcript. I understand he has to be the way he is for the tv cameras, but his attitude during this match was uncalled for and really showed how big of a leak his ego is to his game.

junkbutton · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:47 pm Post subject:

Here's the URL to that post, btw... http://hoss-tbf.livejournal.com/18125.html

CompleteDonk · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject:

LOL at people saying Phil is one of the best tournament players ever.

junkbutton · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject:

CompleteDonk · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:11 pm Post subject:

He's not the best tournament player ever and honestly not close. Maybe based on results he's up there but not on actual skill level. No one really knows his true ROI because of just how many WSOP events he plays. He probably plays more WSOP events than any other pro on the circuit.

He has some pretty massive fundamental errors, notably on the short stack. In one WSOP episode he min-raise/folded with like a 5BB stack, then went on about how good he is after he picked up AA the next hand and doubled.

lukeopp · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject:

I have never like Helmuth for the simple reason of his arrogant A$$ mouth. I get sick of him and his lame costumes he wears to the tables when he is at events, there is my two cents, his game play is back and forth and unpredictable which I guess is good, I just don't agree with his attitude.

Ackshin · Full House Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 210

Hes pretty good... no doubt about that

Doesnt really matter too much

junkbutton · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 9:43 pm Post subject:

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