Online Poker Forum - Durrrr question

Ackshin · Full House Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 210

He is definately close to the top tourny players...
derfinately!

Results speak for themselves.
Just because he is an idiot at the table does not subtract from his play.

And so what if the fields he won his first bracelets in were much smaller than now, we all know that since the fields are bigger , that variance plays a bigger part in the game and skill becomes a smaller factor.

I would challenge anyone to show me a player who has better results.

CompleteDonk · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject:

People say that he's one of the best tournament players of all time constantly. This is false IMO. They base it off bracelets mostly which honestly doesn't mean all that much. It's not like I've only seen a couple hands he's played, he constantly misplays hands and the way he talks about the game in and about certain hands is pretty bad. People who have played with him a lot will tell you the same thing.

I'd like to see his true results based on ROI etc. not just how many bracelets he has. He plays pretty much every single WSOP event.

Ackshin · Full House Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 210

IMO i think bracelets counts for alot, well not the actual bracelet, but the fact that he won the tournament. And even in the tournament he hasnt won he is usually making a good run.

Of course we see the hands he misplays, thats all media, we see EVERY hand he misplays and none of the hands he plays ok. When we first see the coverage of phil he misplays a hand and spews off some of his stack. But have you ever wondered how he got that stack in the first place?

People might say "well he got them from donkeys", but if it were that easy why doesnt everyone do it?

Without sounding like a "pokerbrat lover". I think we should just retire on phil being a really good player.

CompleteDonk · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject:

Honestly they love showing a lot of Phil on TV and definitely show more of his winning hands than losing hands IMO. Plus, it's mostly the mistakes he makes on the small stack which are his biggest fundamental errors.

deton8whore · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:41 am Post subject: Re: Durrrr question

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Zophar · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:43 am Post subject:

9 of 11 of his bracelets came in the pre-moneymaker era, where the player pool was significantly smaller, where most events had less than 300 people. Post-moneymaker his success has been significantly less prolific.

junkbutton · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject:

Kam1972 · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:

Love to know how many bracelets the ones slagging off phil for his poor poker have won.. none would be my guess, but its good they can berate his play still. Smile

No doubt his attitude can blow, but who knows how much of that is table image or bad manners. Not like he is only player to rile players, just one of the most famous I guess.

CompleteDonk · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:59 pm Post subject:

Can we at least all agree that he's a gigantic douchebag?

cubbies760 · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:01 am Post subject:

Moshiach · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:15 am Post subject:

I think he has an advantage with things like the WSOP being a known pro, everyone would want to be in a hand with him just so they have a story to tell, if he plays his tight nitty style to this it's just ez game.

junkbutton · Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:35 am Post subject:

OMGDURRIC4 · Full House Joined: 06 Jan 2009 Posts: 176

Forget Durr any Decent online cash gamer would take Hulmuth apart HU CASH .. and many high stakes on Full tilt have openly invited him to play cash with them anytime any whare and any amount ..they include OMGCLAYAKAIN DURR Good2Cu trex313 and many more they would all finish him online or live It wouldnt matter .. He is a huge fish at the highest stakes

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