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TableCaptain3
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goborage wrote:
I distinctly remember you writing that Cardschat gets some kind of $ amount per post made. I think you edited it though, as it doesn't really make sense. If anything, page views would be their $ money maker. But seeing as there are so few ads on the site, I'm guessing they're making cash through signups as an affiliate. In any case, posting on the site is totally consensual and people are not "slaves".

Doesnt matter if it is consensual. So is prostitution. Alot of people give same excuse, try and work around laws. And fall into same traps. Wink
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LtothaizzO
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TableCaptain3 wrote:
'The existence of a very high market share does not always mean consumers are paying excessive prices since the threat of new entrants to the market can restrain a high-market-share firm's price increases. Competition law does not make merely having,for instance through exclusionary practices.'


Its an exclusionary practice. If you know anything about law??
article 1-section 8

Multiple laws actually
Cant make profit without goverment knowing on worker labor. they must be warrranted and taxed. Also minmal monopoly profits are being made. Basically users of forum are being scammed out of time/money because they are broke and cant find a real job. Against munciplic law article 1 section 9. Hard to explain if you know nothing about law or business regulations.

If your running a business that is in US. And has such procedures always have lawyer check it out. Alot of cases i have seen same thing as this. They think no way it can be against the law.

And they get hit big time, and big trouble. Sometimes quite long jail fraud sentences. No money is free in the US Wink.

Good luck with the law degree kid, you have a long way to go.
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Sandycrab
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TableCaptain,

If I apply your logic to another medium, watching sports on TV is a scam because there are ads. Networks will not provide me my entertainment without enslaving me to their illicit labor requirements.

Since you're so smart, how much can I sue Disney for, assuming I've watched every broadcast of Monday Night Football?
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goborage
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice wiki c/p. I don't know why you brought up monopoly laws. Cardschat is hardly a monopoly or unique in it's practices.

Again, you haven't proven that posting on a forum = work. The sites aren't making a $ amount per post.

You aren't really making any good arguments and your posts are tinged with ad hominems - I would assume someone pursuing law (pretty doubtful imo) would have taken a course in rhetoric.
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TableCaptain3
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandycrab wrote:
TableCaptain,

If I apply your logic to another medium, watching sports on TV is a scam because there are ads. Networks will not provide me my entertainment without enslaving me to their illicit labor requirements.

Since you're so smart, how much can I sue Disney for, assuming I've watched every broadcast of Monday Night Football?

believe it or not that has been a case before, your pretty good. But it didn't get far Laughing

Thing is you dont get personal money profit from this. If you know what freerolls are, this site make you work to get passwords in some way. With the password you can gain money. As long as you dont get personal profit from the activity it does not matter. However this site is giving the user possible chance for profit, though very slim, for their time. And I see no end user liscense agreement/govermental stamp of approval. So I am geussing this site is rouge which is definately against the law.

Its hard for the gov't to catch sites, so most of the time people have to bring attention to the goverment of these activites. As it is time consuming, and its a regenerating bug.
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TableCaptain3
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

goborage wrote:
Nice wiki c/p. I don't know why you brought up monopoly laws. Cardschat is hardly a monopoly or unique in it's practices.

Again, you haven't proven that posting on a forum = work. The sites aren't making a $ amount per post.

You aren't really making any good arguments and your posts are tinged with ad hominems - I would assume someone pursuing law (pretty doubtful imo) would have taken a course in rhetoric.

labor and monopoly regulations coincide, they are alot of times the cause and affect relationships. Poor people have limited opportunities, so are monopolized often. not sure what you are getting at though.
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LtothaizzO
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TableCaptain3 wrote:
Thing is you dont get personal money profit from this. If you know what freerolls are, this site make you work to get passwords in some way. With the password you can gain money. As long as you dont get personal profit from the activity it does not matter. However this site is giving the user possible chance for profit, though very slim, for their time. And I see no end user liscense agreement/govermental stamp of approval. So I am geussing this site is rouge which is definately against the law.

Its hard for the gov't to catch sites, so most of the time people have to bring attention to the goverment of these activites. As it is time consuming, and its a regenerating bug.

This is so amazingly wrong and retarded on so many levels that I really just had to pinch myself. I don't even know where to start, so I'll just say this: you suck. GG.
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jeremysuave
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you implying that each member of their forumn is an employee? Are you implying that the site gets re-embursed for every post that is made?

If so, in theory, they would need only one poster who could endlessly spam the site.
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cardplayer52
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cardschat.com is probably on of the best poker forums out there(as far as micro's go). there "freeroll" is very good too. it well worth the effort of writing 65 posts. i belong to there forun i signed up just for the freeroll took some time to get the required post in. but i learned so much in the process. lots of good reads in there. turns out i only played 4 or 5 of the freerolls but they were played well(not everyone shoving allin w/junk every hand). i don't really freeroll to much anymore but still visit cardschat.com everyday. its a great site.
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deadmeat82
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TableCaptain3 wrote:
That is essentially against the law. Im a studying lawyer. That is a actually an international crime, which many scammers do to mark activities and slave jobs. Your not allowed to elicit work for such profits.


Anybody find it odd that a "studying lawyer" has the worst grammar imaginable? They must not teach the differences between their, they're, and there until much later in law school these days.

Sorry for the rant, but that's a pretty rediculous claim TC3.
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