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xyberman
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 Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:56 pm Post subject: Are Online Games Too Nitty on Stars and Full Tilt? |
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By Sean Gibson for POKER NEWS DAILY | Posted on April 16, 2009
"..., since the inception of the UIGEA many regular cash game players feel like each level’s action has gotten progressively “better” in the sense that the players are generally more tight and aggressive than they were years ago. With the ability to massively multi-table (for example 24-tabling on PokerStars) to simply grind a small profit and enjoy the cash bonus rewards, players have all the incentive to play super nitty poker and make good money".
http://www.pokernewsdaily.com/are-online-games-too-nitty-on-stars-and-full-tilt-1999/ |
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StevieWard
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:46 am Post subject: |
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| Yes - definitly on FTP. Its like rock central. |
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mathman1115
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| Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2009 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| StevieWard wrote: |
| Yes - definitly on FTP. Its like rock central. |
Yes, i agree, to an extent.
More than half of my opponents at .25/.50 deep $100 NL play double digit tables and literally play like a programmed robot. But this is ok, because they are so easy to outplay.
There are occasional players still, though, that are action players, and it only takes one or two at the table to make it worth playing. Also, i am seeing a lot more short stacks at these tables than i used to, which is also ok because as soon as they have top pair its all going in no matter what.
You just won't find any loose tables anymore, but a combination of nits, short stacks, and action players can still be quite profitable, so long as you can define who is who pretty quickly (which i can only playing 2-3 tables at once)
Also, i know these multitablers are likely using software to track stats, such as VPIP, etc. So i attempt to give them false statistics. I'll compete in the SB with trash to increase my flop seen and VPIP % and let them believe i am looser than i am. They are paying attention to the statistics, but not to how the statistics were attained.
I'll open raise PF with all sorts of hands from almost any position at a table with several nits. Sure, occasionally i'll get reraised, but not that much. If i raise UTG with 44, you can bet they'll just call with hands like AK, TT, JJ. The result is the same, but i get to be the aggressor, since i'd call a PF raise with 44 anyway if i limped in. They key is post flop skills, which i have confidence in, so i don't mind completing a SB with trash or min raising in the bb to build a pot.
The whole point is if the general consensus is tight and nitty, play the opposite, or at least make it seem like you are playing the opposite. Poker is about adjustments. |
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AllInDrawinDead
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| I have to agree with mathman. Just because the tables are tight doesn't mean that they aren't profitable. It just means that you have to adjust your game to be a winner. Rocks are very predictable even when they try to slowplay. Their call on the flop gives away the strength of their hand. That's sad. They're very easy to outplay. PF raise, c-bet, repeat. |
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DforDissent
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| StevieWard wrote: |
| Yes - definitly on FTP. Its like rock central. |
Then steal the hell outta those nits' blinds!
And float their LP steals, donkbetting or checkraising every flop and watch them fold!
No matter what strength, there's always a weakness that you can exploit... and a table full of opponents with the same playing style = easiest table to exploit.
oh, and PS: don't stay at that table for an hour, they'll figure out what you're doing eventually 
update: "Mathman" ( http://pokerforums.fulltiltpoker.com/online-poker-post-770375.html#770375 ) says pretty much what I said, different wording same idea "play the opposite of the way most of the table is playing", i.e. you can't play "ABC-TAG poker" all of the time... |
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