Online Poker Forum - Are my aces cracked?

DrYumYum · Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:01 pm Post subject: Are my aces cracked?

Full Tilt Poker Game #13101798148: $5 + $0.50 Sit & Go (97200464), Table 1 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:54:25 ET - 2009/06/29
Seat 1: Vetteparts (1,435)
Seat 2: Janina08 (1,500)
Seat 3: TroyPik44 (1,746)
Seat 4: jooshii86 (1,545)
Seat 5: FlyingDonkey007 (1,455)
Seat 6: DrYumYum (1,169)
Seat 7: FRANK2104 (1,605)
Seat 8: Eugenetic (1,560)
Seat 9: upalsneba (1,485)
TroyPik44 posts the small blind of 20
jooshii86 posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DrYumYum [Ad As]
FlyingDonkey007 folds
DrYumYum raises to 111
FRANK2104 folds
Eugenetic folds
upalsneba folds
Vetteparts folds
Janina08 calls 111
TroyPik44 folds
jooshii86 has 15 seconds left to act
jooshii86 folds
*** FLOP *** [9h Qh Jd]
DrYumYum has 15 seconds left to act
DrYumYum bets 283
Janina08 calls 283
*** TURN *** [9h Qh Jd] [Kd]
DrYumYum has 15 seconds left to act
DrYumYum checks
Janina08 bets 360
DrYumYum has 15 seconds left to act
DrYumYum has requested TIME
DrYumYum folds
Uncalled bet of 360 returned to Janina08
Janina08 mucks
Janina08 wins the pot (848)

I just can't think of any hand she calls me with preflop and on the flop that doesn't beat me here with 2 pair or a straight. I bet she had something like KJ and hit 2 pair.

It hurts so much to throw away aces, but I was beat, right?

drkato · Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 3:24 pm Post subject:

Bet the turn to find out imo. Villain's pre-flop range is much wider than what you are giving credit for considering they have position on you. Unless they were running super nitty, I am firing out on the turn as well. You'll get called all the way to showdown with hands you crush here often enough to make a turn bet profitable. You also are losing value, should your opponent check his draw behind you. Calls shouldn't make you nervous as much as raises should. I'd like to see you pot bet pre also instead of the < 3x BB bet you put out.

Danduy · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject:

This i really a bad spot for aces.
I wouldn't hasitate to fold them like you. Ik may seem bad play but it's still early in the tournament and a few hands are played.

You're raise in early position (2nd to act) looks like a premium hand. So you're put on aces, kings, queens, Jacks, AK maybe AQ. And a call from the button is can mean a lot of hands. A nine, queen and jack hit the board so it fits your hand probably and so it seems that you've hit the board. You raised, got called, betted out, got called and when the king came (s)he betted into you after the check. So if your opponent puts you on AK, kings, queens or Aces, (s)he had the goods to take them down.

If your opponent was on a draw, (s)he would take the free card on the river, or go all-in because any bet would make you both pot committed. The turn bet looked to me to get YOU commited. You saved 775 in chips there imo.

Strong play by mucking them. The chance that you folded the best hand is open for discussion, but double up early in a tournament is not so important then double up in the middle with higher blind levels.

If you had doubled up now, you still need to bust 7 others with only 1200 chips ahead and still approx 11000 chips in play OR you could get busted out with nothing with a draw heavy board. Making these choices are hard to make but again, it's real early. Be patient, save the chips, try to double up. Take this kind of risk at the higher blind play. If you can double up there with 2000 or 2500 chips, you'll be in a lot better shape then in the early stage.

Good luck in the next play's

zamkin · Posted: Fri Jul 03, 2009 4:52 pm Post subject:

I think you can fold them here. I agree with the pot bet size raise pre also or bigger, its very early with 20/40 blinds. I think you price in a lot of hands that cheap and sometimes will end up with a 3 or 4 way pot from your position when u see the flop. I see it all the time in these espec in the early stages when the blinds are small.

But you did get heads up here and I dunno this villain could have anything really but can easily have a draw when called the flop or slow playing a big hand, but on that draw heavy of a board shouldn't be slow playing a set. I am thinking holds a 10 and maybe even A10 or K10 from the post flop play.

daniel9861 · High Card Joined: 02 May 2009 Posts: 8

Sucks to fold but you have to here. With this board even if its not a straight theres so many hands that called your raise and hit 2 pair on this kind of board. Only hand you're ahead of is a flush draw and even that has outs, everything else you're crushed.

drewg22 · Full House Joined: 25 May 2008 Posts: 234

First, you have to raise more pre-flop. You didn't even go 3xBB so at this buy in level you could be called by all kinds of hands.

Good bet on the flop but with the turn K, I don't see much that you are beating and there are really only 2 cards (Ts or Tc) that could come on the river that would make you feel better about your chances.

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