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bleffo19
Straight Flush
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
Posts: 412
Location: SYD, Australia - the one and only
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 Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:55 am Post subject: AKo in BB against extremely loose villain |
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i could not have possibly played this hand worse regardless of the result. i am on serious tilt right now with my worst downswing by far.
anyway, the villain UTG was extremely loose. the 2nd hand of the sng he open-raised on the button with 56s and called a huge 3-bet by the SB (the original raise was to 90, and the 3-bet was to 360). he turned a straight flush and knocked out the SB who flopped a set of 9's.
given this, any reasonable amount that i 3-bet to he's calling. anything more than reasonable is pretty much committing me at this point. i didnt particularly want to play AKo in a 3-bet pot OOP against a loose idiot. shoving nearly 30BB's at the 2nd blind level seems like absolute spew. i guess i could have 3-bet and c/f flop if i whiffed but i wasn't really thinking clearly enough.
Full Tilt Poker, $5 + $0.50 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 20/40 Blinds, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter
UTG: 3,090
MP: 1,215
CO: 1,455
BTN: 1,540
SB: 5,025
Hero (BB): 1,175
Pre-Flop: (60) A K dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to 100, 4 folds, Hero calls 60
Flop: (220) 2 Q J (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 150, Hero calls 150
Turn: (520) K (2 Players)
Hero checks, UTG bets 325, Hero raises to 925 and is All-In, UTG calls 600
River: (2,370) 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In) |
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templar rage
Royal Flush
Joined: 30 Dec 2008
Posts: 771
Location: Rhode Island
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| If this guy is calling 3bets with trash, why aren't you 3betting a hand that is ahead of trash? |
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bleffo19
Straight Flush
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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Location: SYD, Australia - the one and only
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| Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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i really dont know what i was doing here. my default would definitely be to 3-bet, but for some reason i shied away from that. i guess the best line would be 3-bet pre and either shove good flop or c/f a miss.
even though i won the hand i still feel i played it like absolute piss (he showed up with AQo) |
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HuJwang
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Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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Location: Vancouver, BC
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| your stack is a bit short for making a regular 3bet, i wouldn't actually mind shoving pre. as played, postflop seems fine. |
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bleffo19
Straight Flush
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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Location: SYD, Australia - the one and only
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| Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| HuJwang wrote: |
| your stack is a bit short for making a regular 3bet |
thats what i was thinking, because if i 3-bet it almost pot commits me, as ill be quite short if im forced to fold. the only reason i didnt shove was that i thought it was really spewy to shove in nearly 30BB's pre over minimal PF action. i dont know
do you think the spewiness of such a move is offset by the fact that often im going to be getting called by alot worse at this level? whereas at a higher buy-in level with more experienced players, im only getting called by hands that have me crushed, so it more likely to be spew? |
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lurgertor
Four of a Kind
Joined: 04 Jun 2008
Posts: 340
Location: Riskville
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:54 pm Post subject: |
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| bleffo19 wrote: |
thats what i was thinking, because if i 3-bet it almost pot commits me, as ill be quite short if im forced to fold. the only reason i didnt shove was that i thought it was really spewy to shove in nearly 30BB's pre over minimal PF action. i dont know
do you think the spewiness of such a move is offset by the fact that often im going to be getting called by alot worse at this level? whereas at a higher buy-in level with more experienced players, im only getting called by hands that have me crushed, so it more likely to be spew? |
Yeah I think it wouldn't be spewy really you know you don't want to play the pot OOP, you know your opponent is loose and to top it off its six handed, meaning even tight players would be opening with AJ, AQ at the very least. Against this oppenent he might have as little as A5s so your AK has emence value and could easily call a shove with AT+ or maybe even less. Of course I haven't played any SNGs with a buy in of over 6.5 so I wouldn't know about the higher levels. |
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AllInDrawinDead
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Joined: 22 Sep 2005
Posts: 1970
Location: check/raising your mother
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| just 3-bet him preflop and shove any flop. or just shove preflop. don't give loose players a chance to hit a flop for cheap. |
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NilesMonkey
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Location: Schenectady, NY
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| Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| HuJwang wrote: |
| your stack is a bit short for making a regular 3bet, i wouldn't actually mind shoving pre. |
This, especially if he's going to call you regardless. |
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bleffo19
Straight Flush
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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Location: SYD, Australia - the one and only
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| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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fair enough. looking back a shove wouldn't have been the worst thing in the world, especially if i was going to get called with hands i had dominated.
thanks for the replies guys - it's thin situations like this where i feel i need the most work on my game. |
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