Online Poker Forum - Advice for Omaha newbie

walter3215 · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:16 pm Post subject: Advice for Omaha newbie

I just started playing lo stakes omaha. primarily a stud player, but games there are scarce. Any advice or critique is welcome.

Am I seeing too many flops? I do limp in w/any pair.

Watched a few vidios before jumping into the fray so I do understand the value of double suited and such.

Below is one session on Stars

During current Omaha session you were dealt 94 hands and saw flop:
- 13 out of 19 times while in big blind (68%)
- 12 out of 19 times while in small blind (63%)
- 29 out of 56 times in other positions (51%)
- a total of 54 out of 94 (57%)
Pots won at showdown - 7 of 15 (46%)
Pots won without showdown - 17

Any advise would be appreciated. Thanks
Bottlecapthief?

Dashir · Pair Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 47

Hard to say about the %s with so few hands.

But "limping in with any pair" will cost you. Low sets aren't worth that much, so low pairs aren't worth playing unless the the other two cards fit in well. Like a 3 card run or a suited A (marginal).

walter3215 · Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject:

Ty for the reply dash. I'm an old dog trying to learn new tricks. Does that apply in 6 max?

francois8 · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:36 am Post subject:

I'd say to pay attention to the importance of position in omaha. For 6-max, hands where all 4 cards are working together, in mid-late position, put a raise in there preflop to build the pot a little when you have a good hand instead of limping and hoping to hit, hands like JTT9 for example. Also, a hand such as QJT8 is much more playable (imho) after the flop than any pocket pair.

Sets lose value compared to HE since there are many more straights and flushes with everyone having 4 cards. If you hit a set on the flop, you at least want to have a chance that it will be top set. Once you get down to T's or 9's, even for 6-max you have to be careful, as if you have top set the board will almost certainly have a strong straight draw to it.

bottlecapthief · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:52 pm Post subject:

walter3215 · Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject:

bluestone10 · Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject:

stay away from 3 or 4 of a kind in starting hands

Aces suck in Omaha, so if you have dry aces dont jump out of your seat. if you are playing micro it is fairly easy to tell when someone has aces. and they usually push on any flop. if you have a strong hand for the board, go after it.

however, suited aces are nice. Such as A10s AJs. will give you two nut flush draws and obv the aces

connectors, 910jq. all connectors are good, but wouldn't rely on wheel draws too much. some are nitty with the connectors they play. Connectors =Gold in PLO

Double suited Connectors - 89s 10js , obviously have great chance to make str8 and flushes. just got to get a read of some sort to see where your flush is. People push alot with any flush, and some only with the nut flushes. Just watch how they play.

Two Pairs in hand- Nice. AAKK. Great hand, even better is AKs Aks, for obvious reasons.

also, quads and str8 flushes are not that uncommon in PLO. so, don't always assume someone doesn't have it. I see str8 flushes and quads daily, literally. Also, boats are VERY common. If you flop the n ut flush and lead it, alot of times someone has two pair or a set already. so if you get to river and the person has called the whole way, then the board pairs, good chance someone hit it. Sometimes they dont, but that is usually a quick tell. theres a few other tips i've noticed. This is micro im talking about for the most part. Sometimes people will obv switch up how they play, but for the most part, not really.

That being said, gl sir!!

Camby24 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 2962

Depends on the stakes ur playing

It can be two different games!!!

walter3215 · Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:45 pm Post subject:

Thanks again ppl. Still watching this for tips.

Took a beating last nite playing 50c/$1 cap. Think I'll step down till I get a good read on this game, but I'm a stubborn old bstrd!

PLease keep the advice coming.

bottlecapthief · Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject:

walter3215 · Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2008 7:43 pm Post subject:

thanks, i will

jimmyWHISP3RS · Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2008 8:32 am Post subject:

walter3215 · Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject:

ty Jimmy for the input. I'm picking up a lot of good strategy advice here.

Zerbet · Pair Joined: 23 Sep 2006 Posts: 22 Location: StL

Asking for clues is great, but you won't be able to tell the good info from the, er, less than good info until you read "Pot-Limit Omaha Poker" by Jeff Hwang - here's a link to the Amazon.com page:

http://tinyurl.com/6kqeu7

Best $10 you will ever spend if you really want to begin to learn the game. Pretty easy read, and lots of example hand situations (almost all from real game situations, if that matters) to work through so you can better understand his advice.

Fearlessrob · Banned Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 4

i think the hardest thing to adjust to for me was the range of hands and hands you go up against. Its harder to value your hands in omaha and i had prblems with that at first, but if i were you id keep playing low stakes or better yet tourneys to get as many hands in as possible to get used to it, because it essentially is just holdem with more card

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