Online Poker Forum - 9 SEATER, HOLDEM - 4 PAID

LiamHooks · Full House Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 220

Just wondering what everyones opinions on 9 seater 4 paid SNGs. I dont think they have them on full tilt, but they do on absolute. The format for a $20+2 SNG is

1st - $90
2nd - $ $43.20
3rd/4th - $23.40

Iv always thought these were a waste of time and for poor players, and would also be less profitable long term. However after my 10 game no cash run (possibly my worst) and 8 bubbles! I have decided to consider them.

Is this a good idea, or am i just being negative because of this run. I am a winning player with an 18% ROI. So good idea or not?

itsldog · Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:25 pm Post subject:

If you think poor players are in them, I think its well worth it to get in there. I say play them instead of your usual game for a few days and see how you fare.

I understand how you feel, I tend to bubble a lot also.

But, I also agree with you. These don't seem very profitable in the long run.

templar rage · Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:13 pm Post subject:

I agree that these probably wouldn't be profitable in the long run. Probably best case scenario is that they are like short-stacking ring games, in that you win, albeit very slowly. Finishing 3rd/4th is useless because you get 13% of a prize pool that you contributed 11% to, hardly worth the effort IMO. You would need a high percentage of 2nd and 1st place finishes to justify playing these long term, and if you could manage that, why wouldn't you just play normal structure SNGs?

itsldog · Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:30 pm Post subject:

I might see these being nice if your moving up in levels and don't want to take as many big swings at first.

junkbutton · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:25 am Post subject:

I think Double or Nothing SNGs make a lot more sense than these. What's the point of cashing for a dollar profit?

PokerJessO · Royal Flush Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 612

junkbutton · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:53 pm Post subject:

HuJwang · Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 6:37 pm Post subject:

in general, anything you do to decrease your variance will almost always decrease your win rate.

lessening the amount of money on the bubble is probably a bad thing. a lot of your edge in these games comes from playing aggressively on the bubble when other players are playing scared, not wanting to bubble. when the mincash is only 1 buyin instead of 2, people will be playing less scared.

LiamHooks · Full House Joined: 22 Dec 2008 Posts: 220

as i thought i think ill just ride out the bad run and do some reading and up my game, im obviously a winning player and wouldnt be good for the long run, but oh this variance is stressful at times

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