Online Poker Forum - $75 KO MTT. KK line check.

G Goddard · Four of a Kind Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 279

This is the 5th hand of the tourney so obviously no reads. Are we ever shipping pre at these stakes? Are we ever calling OTR as played?

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UTG+1 (t4000)
MP1 (t2800)
MP2 (t3000)
MP3 (t2900)
CO (t2970)
Hero (Button) (t2970)
BB (t2200)
UTG (t3160)

Hero's M: 99.00

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

UTG+1 bets t80, 4 folds, Hero raises to t240, 2 folds, UTG+1 calls t160

Flop: (t510) 9

, A

, 10

(2 players)
UTG+1 checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t510) 5

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets t340, Hero calls t340

River: (t1190) 6

(2 players)
UTG+1 bets t640, Hero folds

Total pot: t2470

marsupial311 · Royal Flush Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 738

I would bet that flop about 300. You've got position and if he check raises, you can get away from it. If he flats we re-evaluate on the turn, most likely folding to a bet without reads. No need to stack off in this situation, 2400 is still plenty to work with early on.

bleffo19 · Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:59 pm Post subject:

yer i probably lead that flop. without an ace or better (ie - set), villain will give you credit a large majority of the time for a big ace and fold. if i'm called i probably shut down but may contemplate firing a second barrel OTT.

not that i've played this high, but shoving pre seems totally unnecessary. people are good enough that they won't call an early shove with AJ and double you up. shoving here will lose you alot of value, as you're really only getting snapped off by better (QQ possibly being the only exception) and you fold out everything else that they would have otherwise continued with.

as played i probably call (but this could be a big leak). clubs are rarely part of his range, and that's pretty much the only draw that hit. in these spots villains like to fire 2 barrels, thinking that their 10's or JJ is good because you checked back the flop. so i call but im not terribly happy about it.

Farting Penguin · Full House Joined: 01 Sep 2009 Posts: 185

francois8 · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:31 am Post subject:

Raise more pre. Once he limps, you give him great odds to set mine you. 320-420 is better pf. If you check flop, you will have to call turn and river, this is ok but I'd probably cb this flop to rep ace that doesn't want to let draw get there.

These stakes the limper is less likely to have ace rag but advice won't change that much IMO. His line looks like a pp often here.

G Goddard · Four of a Kind Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 279

francois8 · Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject:

bigpairde · Moderator Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 10110

i never ship this pre here, but deffo raise more
as played i am calling this down

THEPOKERCAT200 · Banned Joined: 19 Nov 2009 Posts: 198

Hero's line looks 100% fine to me here right up to the river. Don't fold the river after calling down. Anything in his range that you were beating otf, you're still beating it. I mean he can just as easily have QQ or JJ as Ax or a set.

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