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adam27x
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 Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:11 pm Post subject: 50nl - AK flops TPTK + gutshot and faces huge overdonkbet from unknown... |
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Villain is 75/13 over 8 hands. I've already seen him overbet twice. One time was when he bet $4 into $1.25 after he limped pre and the BB checked and the flop and turn were checked through on 8s4s9hJcTh board. The other time was when he again limped pre and the BB checked - the BB bet $.75 into $1.25 on a J87r flop, then the BB c/c'd Villain's $2 turn bet on the 4s, and then after the BB checked OTR, villain shoved on an offsuit 4.
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NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($45.25)
BB ($59.75)
UTG ($19.20)
UTG+1 ($31.40)
Hero ($50)
CO ($10)
BTN ($9.25)
Dealt to Hero K A
fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, SB calls $1.50, fold
FLOP ($4) J Q K
SB bets $32, Hero? |
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WhatASurprise
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| Given that you have the Ac and he's doing it quite a bit, I'm shoving here and expecting to see a lot of pair/draw combos and worse kings. |
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adam27x
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I think the fact that I have the Ac might lean me towards a fold since he'll probably show up with fewer FDs, or I am not following something? |
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Moshiach
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: Re: 50nl - AK flops TPTK + gutshot and faces huge overdonkbet from unknown... |
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| adam27x wrote: |
| I've already seen him overbet twice. One time was when he bet $4 into $1.25 after he limped pre and the BB checked and the flop and turn were checked through on 8s4s9hJcTh board. The other time was when he again limped pre and the BB checked - the BB bet $.75 into $1.25 on a J87r flop, then the BB c/c'd Villain's $2 turn bet on the 4s, and then after the BB checked OTR, villain shoved on an offsuit 4. |
I've read this three times and can't understand what you're saying lol, either way it's a shove imo. |
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beachbabex911x
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| i usually just read but why would u decide on a push? he could easily have KQ,KJ,JQ, a set, 910, A10 and he might think u hit your range and is trying to make you think hes bluffing he could shove KQ just hoping u dont chase flush or str8 draw |
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Big Slick x13x
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| he could also easily have KT,QT,JT, total air, since he has a history of being a maniac, it's time to look him up, make a note and if you happen to lose, reload and move on. |
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Moshiach
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| beachbabex911x wrote: |
| ...and he might think... |
giving too much credit imo |
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gamblingparlour
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| Fold. You can pick way better spots then this to get their stack. |
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adam27x
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| Big Slick x13x wrote: |
| since he has a history of being a maniac, it's time to look him up, make a note and if you happen to lose, reload and move on. |
and if this was his first overbet then what would you do? |
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Big Slick x13x
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| Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:22 am Post subject: |
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| first I would puke. then I'd still shove and take a note. I'd also search this guy and make him my new best friend. |
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HuJwang
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| Fold. You can pick way better spots then this to get their stack. |
i think you're severely overestimating how often we get a chance to play for stacks with a maniac at a FR table |
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gamblingparlour
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| Fold. You can pick way better spots then this to get their stack. |
i think you're severely overestimating how often we get a chance to play for stacks with a maniac at a FR table |
Not at all. If they are a maniac, they will make another mistake.
With this board texture, they see their 2 pair and a flush draw, and don't want you possibly drawing to a better hand so make some stupid size bet. |
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adam27x
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| Fold. You can pick way better spots then this to get their stack. |
i think you're severely overestimating how often we get a chance to play for stacks with a maniac at a FR table |
While I don't like the logic of "waiting for a better spot" because if this spot is +EV then I'll take it now, there are a lot of nitty FR tables where I can isolate this guy 3, 4, or 5 hands in a row and the nitregs won't ever 3bet me light or do anything to stop me. That said, I can't isolate with a really wide range as often as I would be able to at 6-max.
If shoving here is +EV, then folding is a mistake. |
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beachbabex911x
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| so u folded right? i think if u pushed in this type of situation every time theres a over bettign maniac ull go broke |
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beachbabex911x
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kinda like this overbet but not nearly as bad
Full Tilt Poker Game #16233459432: Table Awsome (6 max) - $0.02/$0.05 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:54:43 ET - 2009/11/22
Seat 1: hnation9 ($3.41)
Seat 2: BRTHRHD ($3.69)
Seat 3: captaineddie1 ($0.69)
Seat 4: julie2401 ($4.56)
Seat 5: beachbabex911x ($12.67)
Seat 6: CaralhoNoCu ($1.37)
BRTHRHD posts the small blind of $0.02
captaineddie1 posts the big blind of $0.05
5 seconds left to act
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to beachbabex911x [Ts Tc]
julie2401 folds
beachbabex911x raises to $0.20
hnation9 folds
BRTHRHD calls $0.18
captaineddie1 calls $0.15
*** FLOP *** [Jd Td Qd]
BRTHRHD checks
captaineddie1 checks
beachbabex911x checks
*** TURN *** [Jd Td Qd] [3h]
BRTHRHD bets $0.60
captaineddie1 has 15 seconds left to act
captaineddie1 folds
beachbabex911x raises to $12.47, and is all in |
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