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All in on Ace Q
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:01 pm    Post subject: 25NL, best line? Reply with quote

Basically, villain is 7/4/inf over 61 hands, and I think have a tough decision on the flop on the last hand with JJ. However if you look at the preceding 2 hands, he gets a bad beat from the short stack, so maybe he is steaming?

Here are the 1st two hands:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Converter Tool from

Button (Short Stack Just Arrived) ($9.65)
Hero (SB) ($41.37)
BB ($15.65)
UTG ($25)
UTG+1 ($24.42)
MP1 ($25)
MP2 ($37.14)
MP3 ($21.67)
CO ($17.88)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 7
6 folds, Button bets $0.85, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.95) 7, 3, 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.75, Button raises to $4.20, Hero raises to $7.65, 1 fold

Total pot: $10.35 | Rake: $0.51
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Converter Tool from

CO ($4.60)
Hero (Button) ($46.16)
SB ($15.40)
BB ($25)
UTG ($24.42)
UTG+1 (Villain) ($25)
MP1 ($37.14)
MP2 ($21.67)
MP3 ($17.88)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 2
1 fold, UTG+1 bets $1, 3 folds, CO raises to $4.60 (All-In), 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $3.60

Flop: ($9.55) 5, 4, 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($9.55) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($9.55) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $9.55 | Rake: $0.47

(Villain had AA, Short Stack had 22)
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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Converter Tool from

MP2 ($9.08)
Hero (CO) ($46.16)
Button ($15.30)
SB ($25)
BB ($25)
UTG ($37.14)
UTG+1 ($21.67)
MP1 ($17.88)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, Hero bets $1.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.85

Flop: ($8.55) 5, 2, 8 (2 players)
BB bets $6.50, Hero ?

Total pot: $8.55 | Rake: $0.42
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand 1, I'm not donk betting it, but letting him lead out, calling a bet that's closer to pot size, and raising any bet that's half pot or less. Basically I want him to have a pot size bet or less on the Turn so I can get it in there. He's only short, so there's no need to try and get it in on the flop.

Hand 2. N/A

Hand 3. If you're calling the 3 Bet pre, you should be calling the C Bet on that flop, and seeing what the Turn brings.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fletch, any reason why we could put him on big cards or TT and shove the flop?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

goomlah wrote:
fletch, any reason why we could put him on big cards or TT and shove the flop?

Shoving the flop isn't likely to get a call from hands that we beat. AK/AQ might be in his 3 Betting range, but he's not likely to call a Flop Shove with them. But they could certainly double barrel with them. More value is to be had from these hands by calling the flop.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand 1: I think 3bet/calling pre would be fine vs. the short stack, as played leading the flop is good imo, though I'd lead for $1.25

Hand 3: I'm giving the guy credit and folding pre, 7/4 is just way too tight, if you're confident in your read that he's steaming I'd try get it in pre.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand 1: I like the line you took, but agree with Mosh, bet more otf.

Hand 3: Fold pre.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hence why I suck at cash. Makes sense.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hand 2 confused the crap out of me. I was like "You bet $4 on 62o and hit your straight on the flop? WTF"

Clearly that is not what happened.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Moshiach wrote:
Hand 1: I think 3bet/calling pre would be fine vs. the short stack, as played leading the flop is good imo, though I'd lead for $1.25

Hand 3: I'm giving the guy credit and folding pre, 7/4 is just way too tight, if you're confident in your read that he's steaming I'd try get it in pre.


I ended up folding the hand, feeling a bit ewwww about it.
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