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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: 25/50 QQ on ace high flop in a capped pot Reply with quote

Am I calling down here, or should I just fold the flop, even though I have backdoor hearts and queens?

Full Tilt Poker, $0.25/$0.50 Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG calls, Hero raises, CO folds, BTN 3-bets, 3 folds, Hero caps, BTN calls

Flop: ($2.60) A 6 7 (2 Players)
Hero bets, BTN raises, Hero calls

Turn: ($3.60) T (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets, Hero
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you think he is bluffing, then go ahead and call it down. I wouldn't let the back door stuff affect my decision here.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im getting over 17-1 on a call here, so 3,5 outs is more than enough to take into consideration imo.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me rethink here. If you are assuming he has an ace, you have 2 outs with the Qs. I don't think I would count more than 1 out for the other stuff. Even 3 outs give you odds to call it I guess plus implied odds make it that much better.


P.S. I really shouldn't be commenting on limit cash games.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, miscalculated the Qh.
2,5 outs is still enough, though.
The main questions was more about me calling down, if he will take that line with non- ace hands which I`m ahead of. I think the only hands he might do it with that I beat are 89 and KQhh, QJhh and other random high SCs of hearts.

I stoved it, and I am a 4-1 dog against his range OTF, and I only have about 3% equity OTT, thus making it a clear fold.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2009 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess what are you hoping for here, jj on down that doesn't have a set or spastic flush draw?

Like someone said it depends on villain and what villain thinks of you, does villain think you were trying to isolate pf? Does villain 3 bang light? Against a solid player that doesn't get out of line I 3b the flop and see what he does. All other players I take the medicine and cd occasionally spiking a set (which is occasionally no good Smile
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