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WhatASurprise · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:54 pm Post subject: $.25/$.50 2 hands

Hand 1: Villain is a decent TAG for whom I have about a 2k sample size with. He just sat down at the table.
Do you bet this river for value?

Hand 2. Readless. Is this an automatic value bet or should I slow down? One of my biggest leaks in limit is picking the right spots to value bet on scare cards, and it`s something I`m working on.

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HAND #1
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LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Pre-Flop: T T dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero calls

Flop: (6.4 SB) Q 6 8 (2 Players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls

Turn: (5.2 BB) 9 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls

River: (7.2 BB) Q (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero?

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HAND #2
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LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

Pre-Flop: 5 5 dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, Hero raises, BTN folds, SB calls, BB calls

Flop: (6 SB) 5 T 9 (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, SB calls

Turn: (6 BB) K (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero 3-bets, SB calls

River: (12 BB) 3 (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero?

WhatASurprise · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject:

The converter didn`t get the suits, so I`ll tell them now. In hand 1, the 3rd spade came on the river. As did the 3rd club in hand 2.

WhatASurprise · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 3:57 pm Post subject:

The converter didn`t get the suits, so I`ll tell them now. In hand 1, the 3rd spade came on the river. As did the 3rd club in hand 2.

mathman1115 · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:40 pm Post subject:

In Hand 1, i check the river because you won't get many worse hands to call or any better hands to fold. I have him on JJ here, and with the Q pairing the river, i don't think he can payoff a river bet with AK, AJ, or AT if he is a decent TAG as you say

In hand 2, i'm value betting this river. There are a lot of 2nd best hands that will pay off your set here even with the third club hitting OTR.

Riddim · Moderator Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 8490 Location: Sweden

I probably bet both but might check back 1. Basically the only better hands he'll show up with are JJ and flushes in 1. If he'll get stubborn and call down with A-high I think it's a bet and if not probably a check. In 2 there are just too many two pair combos and TP hands that will pay you off to justify checking back.

fire_eyes_2k · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject:

Hand 1 is an easy value bet as soooo many worse hands will pay you off here. WRT the third card of the suit coming off on the river were the other 2 on the flop or was one of them the turn? The latter makes the lfush draw less likely imo. Villain calls with AK a hell of a lot here imo, probably thinking "The pot is too big to fold!" (A mistake)

Hand 2. Easy bet again, probably only calling a raise rather than 3betting it as we have seen a lot of aggression already. Like riddim said, theres waay too many 2pr hands and other wierd holdings that pay you off.

deadmoney314 · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: Re: $.25/$.50 2 hands

WhatASurprise · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:55 pm Post subject:

FYI there where flushdraws on the flop in both hands.

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