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ScizoRShocK Flush
Joined: 26 Aug 2009 Posts: 134
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:11 pm Post subject: 10nl hu sng "?" |
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how do i play against a guy that plays like this? from sb he min raises every hand and cbets for half the pot every flop, and cont. betting half pot the t/r if he has something.(ive never went to sd w/ him like this and seen a bluff) from the the bb hes more of a tag(only calls raises like 20%)
and bets half pot if he hits the flop even if its bottom pair or good draws
-oh yea he also bets from sb same way with bottom pairs-
also if hes got a good hand and i pot his min bet he goes all in(so far i havent called down any all ins after the flp so im assuming they r w/ monster hands cuz he doesnt do it that often)-edit just saw him do it with TPNK
if i forgot to mention some critical info to analize the best way to play back at him pls tell me ill add the necessary info.
ive won 4-3 against him so far but i dont feel like i hav a solid strat against him yet
any advice be appreciated(even if its "dont play the guy") |
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Danduy Full House
Joined: 01 Dec 2008 Posts: 199 Location: Tessenderlo (Belgium)
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Since HU play is the hardest play to master at No Limit Hold'em there is no 'ready to go' advice on this level. Only with lots and lots of experience it becomes a littl easier but still a tough game. If you ever watched the HU challenge on Poker After Dark or so and you analyze their play this has an enormous skill factor, even it looks like a shove/bluff party.
I'll try to give it a go.
First of al, this are the toughest opponents to play against, but the most moneymaking also. If you hit a decent hand they will pay you off most of the time.
If he minraises every time, you get good odds to call. At the 15/30 blinds he will raise to 60 and you need to call 30 into a 90$ pot giving you 3 to 1 and if you are a dogg preflop, most of the times it will be 2/1. With 22 against AK you get the best odds like 1/1 and this is what called a coinflip. 52% of the time you win and 48 % of the times he wins. So a 3/1 call with a pocket pair is almost always correct except when dominated by a bigger pair.
But this is only theory and you can't just call him off with junk like 9-3 or 10-2 like that, even tho there are only 2/1 dog against overcards. But if his opening range is quite large like you say, you can reraise him with a lot of other hands. Like any Ace - suited king - Q6s+ - QT+ any Pocket pair etc. You will find some interesting stuff written everywhere about hands to play HU.
The only problem is that they will play BIG hands also like this and then there is a chance you will pay him off if he holds BIG hands.
Now, tightening up is a good thing to do if you are at a table full off these loose players. HU is an other story. You can't wait for a good hand to play back at him, you are forced to play here or else he will have a chip lead in no time and can open even more with hands. And as you posted that he only will see 20% in the BB is a good thing, raise him back every hand. Call once in a while and try to trap with good hands but raise them also. If he comes over the the top you know what to do.
The best defense against these players is to reraise them and let them do the guessing. Don't overdo it because they also will play back at you. But then again, this is only some advice and i know it is hard to put this into practice. Maybe you can drop a buy-in level to experiment some playes there.
Good luck |
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adam27x Message Board Junkie
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 3676 Location: New York/New Jersey
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Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Loosen up your opening range OTB, 3bet his raises if he's opening wide (that is, 3bet wider for value and throw some bluffs in there), c/r bluff his cbets on dry boards, etc, etc. |
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MPMTL Message Board Junkie
Joined: 07 Oct 2008 Posts: 1482
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Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| adam27x wrote: |
| Loosen up your opening range OTB, 3bet his raises if he's opening wide (that is, 3bet wider for value and throw some bluffs in there), c/r bluff his cbets on dry boards, etc, etc. |
I like when people answer questions (well) in 2 sentences.
I think the key here is loosening up your range and just let the villain barrel into you whenever you have a hand. Let him dictate the action at first and then raise raise raise. |
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DforDissent Royal Flush
Joined: 30 Mar 2009 Posts: 669
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Danduy wrote: |
The best defense against these players is to reraise them and let them do the guessing.
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Then we'll just fold with air, and smooth-call with a monster.
These kind of players often know how to "switch gears", remember... the best are really good at staying "one step ahead", so they keep getting you to react to them, instead of the reverse.
PS: Just last night I was doing almost the same thing as OP described, at Play Money but middle-stakes so it played almost the same as the micros Real Money... I sat at 6max or full tables when there were only 2 or 3 other players already there, but my cont.bet on flop was MINIMUM bet (instead of half-pot) and omg amazing how often people folded (with air or mediocre hands) or else RAISED (thus demonstrating they had a monster, which I would give no action to, and if they were bluffing oh well enjoy this rare pot as I keep stealing 80% of pots from you...) I won a bunch of small pots, lost a few small pots, and my 2pair SHOVES were almost ALWAYS called by like bottom pair or even Ace high, it was so sweet. |
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