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phareal15
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:55 pm    Post subject: 100NL JJ vs small board Reply with quote

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em $0.20 Ante - 8 players -
The Official Hand History

Hero (CO): $596.85
BTN: $100.00
SB: $200.00
BB: $101.40
UTG: $55.80
UTG+1: $401.00
MP1: $200.00
MP2: $134.70

Pre Flop: ($3.10) Hero is CO with J Heart J Club
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 calls $1, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $10, BTN calls $10, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $9, 1 fold

Flop: ($35.10) 8 Spade 3 Club 3 Spade (3 players)
UTG+1 bets $24, Hero raises to $63, BTN folds, UTG+1 raises to $120
Hero?????

No read on opponent
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WhatASurprise
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bah, every option sucks here. He's basically repping a flusdraw, 3 or 88, and bluffs shouldn't really be a significant part of his range. This deep, you have a sh*tload of reverse implied odds to take into account as well, so I guess I'd fold and feel violated afterwards.
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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pf raise is way too big. there's just way too big of a chance of folding out everyone rather having them call and allowing you to play a big hand IP very deep stacked.

and please flat the flop. as played, fold. he's not 3 betting any weaker hands for value, he shouldn't be semi bluffing this deep to this size on a paired board, and even if he does have something like KXss or AXss, then you are only flipping against that hand while being crushed by the rest of his range. just because you have an overpair doesn't mean you should raise the flop. it looks like you're just autopiloting and making snap decisions without really thinking out the situation. stop and think about his range and how it will react to every action. this is absolutely critical, especially when you are 400bb deep. one small flop mistake can turn into a multi buy-in mistake.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm definitely flatting the flop for pot control this deep.
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Mhillier91
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow the pre-flop raise is x10 BB which by his call shows he has a hand the only thing that get me about this hand is he limped im from early then called you raise, i dont know what to make of that move maybe pocket 8's OR A Somthing suited? And with him now 3 betting you. I would fold this hand.
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