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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: 100NL - AQ facing pot donk Reply with quote

not much known about villain although he seems fairly fishy, around 29/5 over 30ish hands. not long ago he won a 400bb pot with straight > set.

i called flop cause it seems relatively harmless, now not sure what to think of this potbet on the turn. his flop bet was fairly quick, but he thought for about 5 seconds before betting the turn.

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
5 players

Stacks:
Hero ($98.50)
CO ($178.07)
BTN ($49.64)
SB ($551.35)
BB ($100.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is UTG AClub QClub
Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: 6Heart ADiamond 9Spade ($8, 2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: 7Diamond ($24, 2 players)
SB bets $24, Hero ...
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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was he just passive preflop, or did he seem to be passive post flop too? I might fold if this guy is c/f every time he misses. If you didn't really have a read on that this quickly, I might just stack off. I think he could have worse here and still be willing to stack off.
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drtre1987 wrote:
Was he just passive preflop, or did he seem to be passive post flop too? I might fold if this guy is c/f every time he misses. If you didn't really have a read on that this quickly, I might just stack off. I think he could have worse here and still be willing to stack off.


so you shove then?
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drtre1987
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a little unsure. I almost want to shove to ensure max value from any 8 that he turned an OESD with that might not bluff the river, but I want him to continue potting it with his complete air. I'm leaning towards flatting though to keep him bluffing with no hope.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Call and re-eval river. Shoving gets called by worse almost always.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jongreenway wrote:
Call and re-eval river. Shoving gets called by worse almost always.
better?
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HuJwang
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: 100NL - AQ facing pot donk Reply with quote

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 5 players) Hero is UTG AClub QClub
Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: 6Heart ADiamond 9Spade ($8, 2 players)
SB bets $8, Hero calls $8

Turn: 7Diamond ($24, 2 players)
SB bets $24, Hero calls $24

River: JClub ($72, 2 players)
SB shoves for $63 effective, Hero ...
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mistaken69
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

am i just a station or something? all iw ant to do is calllll
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Riddim
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistaken69 wrote:
am i just a station or something? all iw ant to do is calllll


It's because you pretty much only play HU, where I think this is a calldown too. Ranges are going to be so much wider and people are going to be so much more likely to have air in spots like this.
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Big Slick x13x
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This feels like you ran into AK or a set. Against a passive player I probably puke fold.
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StevieWard
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a wimp I fold this too - unless the guy is completely nuts insane crazy, you have to be really basd to continually fire at this with less than a pair surely.
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