Online Poker Forum - Should I just let go?

AA_Slick_AA · Pair Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 47

12 left in a 3.30 KO, I have plenty of chips to make the money, currently sitting 6th. My thoughts were see the flop cheap and hopefully hit a set. Any opinions after that?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 600/1200 Blinds 150 Ante (6 handed) - Converter Tool from

CO (t23050)
Button (t33345)
Hero (SB) (t23495)
BB (t5610)
UTG (t45525)
MP (t16070)

Hero's M: 8.70

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

, 7

3 folds, Button calls t1200, Hero calls t600, BB checks

Flop: (t4500) 7

, 9

, J

(3 players)
Hero bets t2400, 1 fold, Button raises to t4800, Hero calls t2400

Turn: (t14100) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets t9600,

francois8 · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:25 am Post subject:

First, on this flop with 6 left all the money is going in, aka I'm not folding a set here. And I want to get it in now. Especially in $3.30 KO.

Good bet on flop, once you're raised on the flop, I 3-bet all in at this point.

Set under set is unlikely since even a drooler can usually manage to raise from the button with 99 or JJ once antes are in play. If he has 8T exactly, then you've got 7 outs on the turn, 10 on the river. So you're only a 2-1 dog, I've gotten my money in worse than that... but that's probably worst case and I think you're ahead more than you're behind here. Hands like J9, JT, T9, QT, especially any of them with spades (JTs for example) might play this in the same way preflop and would play this just as aggressively post flop.

Main point is, our hand plays just fine against his range on the flop, so instead of trying to have a really tough decision if a spade, 8, T, K hits turn, I prefer to get it in on the flop here. As played, I check / shove turn. Mildly annoyed with myself for not shoving flop.

AA_Slick_AA · Pair Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 47

AllInDrawinDead · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:38 pm Post subject:

button is an idiot for limping the button w/ AA. I see this play all the time and i love hitting the flop hard to take their whole stack or double up. everything francois said is spot on. once you're raised on the flop, take a few seconds then get it in just so it isnt instashove. as played was ok but a flush card could potentially kill action you wouldve got by shoving the flop.

dcdoorknob · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject:

It's a pretty drawy flop, so I don't like slowplaying much. Just put in a nice raise OTF.

if button is a habitual limper (or even if I'm readless I'm ok assuming he is one...) I'm very likely to raise preflop though. It's probably the best hand, and many opponents will play fit or fold on the flop even if they call you preflop. Obv that wouldn't have worked out too great in this case, but in general its a good play.

goomlah · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject:

slick, if it makes you feel better, he probably would not have folded aces on the flop anyway.

francois8 · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject:

marsupial311 · Royal Flush Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 738

It's a nice little c-bet but when he repops you, shove it all in there 100% of the time. Limp and Min-raise screams high PP for the most part with bad players as they try to act overly weak at these stakes.

JDizzzle72 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 5117

if button has limped a lot, im snapshoving this pre.

otherwise flop lead is fine, snapshove after the raise.

bleffo19 · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:06 am Post subject:

raise pre i reckon. make it like ~3600. if the button is uber limp-happy im more inclined to raise it than if it's the first time ive seen him do it.

flop is standard. bet and then 3-bet shove over the raise. in that spot people will rarely fold aces, but you don't want them to fold.

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