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DannehBoi
Four of a Kind
Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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 Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:28 am Post subject: Pocket aces suck for me today! Another tough decision |
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I might've totally butchered this hand..I dunno. Judge for yourself
Full Tilt Poker .COM 100 Play Chip Tourn No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t200 - 5 players -
The Official Hand History
SB: t79369 M = 23.34
BB: t215446 M = 63.37
UTG: t34225 M = 10.07
CO: t38792 M = 11.41
Hero (BTN): t116385 M = 34.23
Pre Flop: (t3400) Hero is BTN with A  A 
1 fold, CO calls t1600, Hero raises to t6400, SB calls t5600, 1 fold, CO calls t4800
Flop: (t21800) K  4  J (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero bets t12500, SB calls t12500, CO calls t12500
Turn: (t59300) K (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero checks
River: (t59300) 8 (3 players)
SB bets t59300, CO folds, What does hero do here?
Play chips as you can see
We're at the late stages of the tourney (final 18 out of 279) so there's no more aggro donks. Actually everyone at this table plays fairly well for play chips. Except for the villain who according to my reads is a total calling station.
Did I play this scared or smart? I'm not too sure.
Checked on the turn because I was worried about the third king.
Got me thinking when he potted on the river.
Thoughts? |
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goomlah
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invest some money 1st of all.
If they're tight as you say they are I'd say fold. The only hand you beat here is a bluff or an AJ QJ combo. Besides, you did not invest that much. and still have the table if not covered then almost covered. |
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bleffo19
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Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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Location: SYD, Australia - the one and only
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject: Re: Pocket aces suck for me today! Another tough decision |
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| DannehBoi wrote: |
We're at the late stages of the tourney (final 18 out of 279) so there's no more aggro donks. Actually everyone at this table plays fairly well for play chips. Except for the villain who according to my reads is a total calling station.
Did I play this scared or smart? I'm not too sure.
Checked on the turn because I was worried about the third king.
Got me thinking when he potted on the river.
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massive level here. rarely are play-chippers any good, and definitely not those who pot it on the river.
you played it alright though. pre is fine, i'd bet slightly more on the flop tho. i like turn check - we don't want to overvalue an overpair 3-way.
on the river i fold. we're only beating random bluffs and Jx. not much value in calling |
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lurgertor
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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| goomlah wrote: |
| invest some money 1st of all. |
+1 or at least start playing freerolls the micro games aren't much better than the play chippies, which I'm assuming you're crushing. |
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DannehBoi
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| lurgertor wrote: |
| goomlah wrote: |
| invest some money 1st of all. |
+1 or at least start playing freerolls the micro games aren't much better than the play chippies, which I'm assuming you're crushing. |
Well..I make "the money" in around 75-80% of the play chip tournaments I actually try in. I don't really know if you could consider that good or not.
I have about a fulltilt bankroll of exactly $3.13..all made from freerolls. However I've been on a dry streak as far as freerolls go. It's pretty hard for me to cash due to the fact that I sometimes intentionally make dumb decisions by using the mindset of "well it's a freeroll, who cares?" However I'm slowly but surely doing less of that. 
I will continue to do freerolls and play chips until I have 10 dollars. Then I'll start participating in the 50 cent rebuy tournaments, and the occasional daily dollar. If my bankroll runs dry, I'll rinse and repeat. If my bankroll grows bigger, so will the buy-ins of the tournaments I play. 
On Pokerstars it's easier though..a friend of mine sent 5 dollars to my account, and now I frequent the 25 cent 90 player sit n go's. After playing, I don't know..around 40-50 of them (rough estimate), I've broken even. Haven't made any profit, haven't lost anything either. Obviously not doing as good as I had hoped.
Overall I've made a decision long ago that I'm not going to deposit a single cent on online poker because
1) I'm very stingy with my money
2) I'm not 100% confident in my game yet
3) I prefer the challenge of starting up a healthy bankroll through freerolls, and doing tournaments from there.
Sorry..I know I gave a long response to a short post, but..now you know. |
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MattElsarelli
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Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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| DannehBoi wrote: |
| lurgertor wrote: |
| goomlah wrote: |
| invest some money 1st of all. |
+1 or at least start playing freerolls the micro games aren't much better than the play chippies, which I'm assuming you're crushing. |
Well..I make "the money" in around 75-80% of the play chip tournaments I actually try in. I don't really know if you could consider that good or not.
I have about a fulltilt bankroll of exactly $3.13..all made from freerolls. However I've been on a dry streak as far as freerolls go. It's pretty hard for me to cash due to the fact that I sometimes intentionally make dumb decisions by using the mindset of "well it's a freeroll, who cares?" However I'm slowly but surely doing less of that.
I will continue to do freerolls and play chips until I have 10 dollars. Then I'll start participating in the 50 cent rebuy tournaments, and the occasional daily dollar. If my bankroll runs dry, I'll rinse and repeat. If my bankroll grows bigger, so will the buy-ins of the tournaments I play.
On Pokerstars it's easier though..a friend of mine sent 5 dollars to my account, and now I frequent the 25 cent 90 player sit n go's. After playing, I don't know..around 40-50 of them (rough estimate), I've broken even. Haven't made any profit, haven't lost anything either. Obviously not doing as good as I had hoped.
Overall I've made a decision long ago that I'm not going to deposit a single cent on online poker because
1) I'm very stingy with my money
2) I'm not 100% confident in my game yet
3) I prefer the challenge of starting up a healthy bankroll through freerolls, and doing tournaments from there.
Sorry..I know I gave a long response to a short post, but..now you know. |
Can you get transfers??? That requires a deposit history huh =[
I can tell by what you say, and the fact that you post HH and stuff in here for help, that you are sooooo much better then a standard play chip player. I would totally stake you for some micro SnG's.
I'm curious to what your playchip bankroll is though...I have 6k...lol |
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lovebeefstew
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Bet alot more on the flop. Call the river bet. |
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DannehBoi
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:49 am Post subject: |
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| MattElsarelli wrote: |
| Can you get transfers??? That requires a deposit history huh =[ |
Apparently on Pokerstars it doesn't.
| MattElsarelli wrote: |
| I can tell by what you say, and the fact that you post HH and stuff in here for help, that you are sooooo much better then a standard play chip player. I would totally stake you for some micro SnG's. |
Thanks I appreciate the vote of confidence xD
| MattElsarelli wrote: |
| I'm curious to what your playchip bankroll is though...I have 6k...lol |
Currently I'm up to nearly 4 million in play chips.
| lovebeefstew wrote: |
| Bet alot more on the flop. |
Should've...
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| Call the river bet. |
Didn't. I ended up folding the river. After the hand was over, he said he had pocket 4's.
*shrugs* |
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fat rugger
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| DannehBoi wrote: |
| Currently I'm up to nearly 4 million in play chips. |
why not play a few of those $40 freeroles for 500k chips. Easy money iirc. |
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DannehBoi
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IIRC?
Yea I've seen those around, just never bothered registering. Guess I'm sort of afraid to because I think it's a waste, but then again I've always had a problem overestimating play chip players and underestimating myself. xD
I always have a problem remembering to get into freerolls in general. Most of them fill up so fast. The only freeroll I play on a normal basis is the USA freeroll. |
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fat rugger
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:36 am Post subject: |
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if i remember correctly.
I played one of them a few years ago won like $3, lost it and stopped playing until this year. At that time it payed 18ish spots and only had about 40 entrants i think. So cashing was pretty easy. |
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JJsell
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| I transferred $100 to my dad on full tilt and he didnt have any deposit history, this was about 6months ago dont know if the rules have changed. He just needed an address filled in and contact details. |
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cubbies760
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I'd raise a bit more PF, to about 8000, and the flop bet needs to be either pot, or shove.
As played, I think the SB almost always has a King, so I'd fold the river. |
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