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MtWoody
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've built a little bankroll from 10$ to 600$ in 2 weeks. I play multi tables 4 tables at a time. Started .05 and .10 cent tables. built up to 20$ when to .25 cent tables and so on til I was up to 2$ 4$ tables.Ended up with 620 $. Then I cashed out 400$ left me 200$ too explore other tourny's and games.
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BiggMoneyy90
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow i been reading stuff like people deposited 200/300/500 dollas and doubled up within 1-2years!?!?!

i deposited 100£ = 160$ and made 500$ in 2 hours!!!!! by playing .50/1 1/2 or 3/6 cash games ...

am i rushing the game? or are you guys playing it reallly slow??

any way i withdrew and left my self with 150$ which i lost 2day!

any good suggestions for building a bank roll if i deposit another 150$?

because the way i play is reallly risky for loosing my bank roll...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BiggMoneyy90 wrote:
wow i been reading stuff like people deposited 200/300/500 dollas and doubled up within 1-2years!?!?!

i deposited 100£ = 160$ and made 500$ in 2 hours!!!!! by playing .50/1 1/2 or 3/6 cash games ...

am i rushing the game? or are you guys playing it reallly slow??

any way i withdrew and left my self with 150$ which i lost 2day!

any good suggestions for building a bank roll if i deposit another 150$?

because the way i play is reallly risky for loosing my bank roll...

Yes, the limits you play are realllly risky, as you have demonstrated. You should play a game that you have 20 Full Buy Ins. So, $150/20 is $7.50. So, you have enough to play the 5nl games buying in for $5. $200 is enough for 10nl, $500 is enough for 25nl, $1000 is enough for 50nl and $2000 is enough for 100nl (the lowest limit game you had listed).

Bank Roll Management is an important part of the game, because even when you're playing correctly, you will still take beats. If you've got too large a percentage of your roll on the line, you can go broke pretty quickly.
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notphil207
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trouble with SnG's and MTTs is that they take a lot of time. You can spend an hour or two playing and hit the bubble and go out with no money. Poker is a tough game and requires a lot of patience, so this may be what needs to happen to increase that bankroll.

I would advise everyone to take advantage of the full tilt academy and play abc poker whether it's ring games or tournaments until you get really good at the basics and THEN worry about building up your bankroll to thousands and millions of dollars.

The beauty, though, of poker is that not everyone has, or should have, the same strategy, so I think if you play long enough, you will find out what types of situations you make money and what types of situations you lose money.
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jrwill70
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:31 pm    Post subject: freerolls Reply with quote

I play the freerolls everyday, religiously, due to the fact that my spouse will not open me an account......He has, however, opened an account and will transfer me $15 or $20 bucks every now and again......(gotta get the hell out of here)....So anyway, I am capable of going pretty deep in most of the holdem tournaments, but seem to crunch towards the end.....I have not been successful building a bankroll, but I am learning alot about donks. Occasionally, I have also been a donk. But I will keep trying to build my bankroll thru freerolls, as I have no other choice.......When I do manage to cash, I like playing the $1.10 double stack sng.......Anyway, any advice on late stages of freerolls would be greatly appreciated. Should have opened a new topic for this, but that would be too visible if my husband started nosing around in here....... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: freerolls Reply with quote

jrwill70 wrote:
...my spouse will not open me an account......He has, however, opened an account and will transfer me $15 or $20 bucks every now and again......(gotta get the hell out of here).... Should have opened a new topic for this, but that would be too visible if my husband started nosing around in here....... Very Happy


I think leaving the overcontrolling d!ck and using his spousal support payments to fund your online poker account are in order here.
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kazoo40
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While there is a ton of GREAT advice here I see only one thing missing and it is possible I overlooked it.

Get a good spreadsheet and track your game earnings/losses EVERY game. I suggest one I found which has helped me a ton and shown me some things I thought erroneously, For instance I thought I was making more at regular tables, BUT, as the sheet showed me I was actually making more at SNG's

The link to the spreadsheet is

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-forum/index.php?showtopic=93631

While it is dated and I would like to see some things added it is a GREAT one to start with. Just enter the info and read the reports to see where you are REALLY at.

Other advice which I am sure has been stated. Buyin (for me) is only (MAX) 10% of my bankroll and most usually only 5%. Yes I build slow BUT wont go BROKE!
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IroncladMerc
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some good cheap options for tournaments:

.10 Rebuy - just vow not to use any rebuys to avoid making it expensive
.01 Daily Forum Gathering - not too hard to make the money
.30 Satellite to the Daily Dollar - the tournament pays out about 25% of the field
.25 Nightly Forum Gathering - the time I played it had even less players than the daily one

Plus if you just play the .10 Rebuy and the .25 + .05 Satellite to the Daily Dollar, you'll get your 1 point per day for the Iron Man One-A-Day Freeroll, which is a great freeroll to enter.
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Granvegas
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol, build a bankroll at low limit. That is a hoot! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Granvegas wrote:
lol, build a bankroll at low limit. That is a hoot! Rolling Eyes

I did, along with many others. If you can't beat the players at 2nl, what chance do you think you have as you go up in limits?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

MtWoody wrote:
I've built a little bankroll from 10$ to 600$ in 2 weeks. I play multi tables 4 tables at a time. Started .05 and .10 cent tables. built up to 20$ when to .25 cent tables and so on til I was up to 2$ 4$ tables.Ended up with 620 $. Then I cashed out 400$ left me 200$ too explore other tourny's and games.


You will lose very quickly. GG.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fletch_smf wrote:
Granvegas wrote:
lol, build a bankroll at low limit. That is a hoot! Rolling Eyes

I did, along with many others. If you can't beat the players at 2nl, what chance do you think you have as you go up in limits?


they respect your raises up the higher limits Rolling Eyes
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BBCOACH44
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Educate urself in BRM before you even sit down @ a Table Rooks....... Idea Idea Idea Idea Rolling Eyes Shocked Confused Arrow Arrow
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sonicyouth77
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My advice is not to think of poker as a way to make money until the average $ per day you win becomes "relevant".
The lower limits must be oportunities to learn, investment in lessons, experience. Not as a way to grow a bankroll.

if your plan would be to make 500$ playing poker starting from almost scratch, forget it and invest your time in a part time job or more productive ways of using your time like studying etc. and save money (while playing and learning, of course) to invest in poker. Just dont get that fixed on making money out of poker for now, take it as something fun and educational. An investment. People think of poker as easy and fun money, but it is not. Thrust me, to actually MAKE relevant money out of poker in the long run, is very hard and demanding.

A lot of times you will feel confortable enough to just deposit cash and move up a level or keep at the same level after a really nasty run of cards or tilting. The important thing is learning and acessing if you are on the correct level or not, not only relating to the money you have to spend on poker, but also relative to the players you are facing. I found it the hard way that even reading alot of books, some concepts only got into my head after I suffered the consequences on the tables. No matter how good I am at 0.5 /1$ NL ring games now, I know I will be crushed if I move to 2$ NL too soon. But a few months ago I was crushed at 0.5/1 NL. Now sometimes i make 500$ in a day, unthinkable a couple of months ago.

What's my authority? Well, lets say i did most mistakes. Really. I was a black jack gambler, lost thousands of dollars. That had a good thing and a bad thing, I'm not afraid to gamble and be agressive at tables. Its good when you are a good player, but very dangerous when you dont know what you are doing. So I learned poker. In a few months, I started to win sit n gos and i remember this 1 day I made over 700$. Then I lost it all. I invested another 600$ because I knew I could make 700$ in a day, then I lost all of it. Again, again, again. Playing tilted, sleepy, stressed, ultra agressive etc. I would have great periods, that would last longer because I would learn an progress, but I would inevitably crash. I wanted really bad to make a living out of poker and I was still thinking like a gambler.

I even quit poker for weeks after days of horrific bad beats. That experience made much more humble of my own habilities and aware of players that play like I played, on tilt. It was an expensive experience but finally I'm wining something.

Also, I began using poker tracker, to analyse my game and discovered tons of terrible leaks. Now, before I begin playing, I write something like a script were I direct myself to correct those leaks, like PLAY IN POSITION or VALUE BET or "BEFORE GOING ALL IN ON THE RIVER- THINK YOU IDIOT! LOOK AT THE BOARD FOR STRAIGHTS YOU MORON"

With time, crashing periods became much more rare, because I tilt much less and know better when to quit. I still have stupid periods, but they are shorter. I think less of the money I win or lose, but more on playing better and making good decisions. This sounds very simple, but its very very hard to learn it without experience the self-defeat of being arrogant and thinking luck will treat you better. After sufering bad beats for a week, i understood I couldn't make a living out of poker, its more stressfull than my actual job. I dont know, how would it be to have kids and a wife, and losing money on the tables to fish and donks in bad beats, that would stress me too much i think Very Happy

Finally, its better to invest in cash games than sit n'gos. Sit n'gos are fun and I like them, but they are far less profitable than cash games if you are a good player. In a cash game, a good player gains a much bigger edge over a bad player. So, if you are good, you win in the long run, and cash games tell you better if you are good or bad, they are much more subtle and require more patience (at least 9 player ring games).

And final advice, dont focus too much on poker. I see more and more kids thinking about quiting school or university or careers, much too soon, its really sad, because they already see poker as a way of making money and not as a fun and exciting game. Before poker, I was also a chess player, and I played for hours a day, online. I'm trying to have the same atitude I had towards chess, I played it for free, but to win.

good luck!
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KingWhite55
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BillZ23 wrote:
ring games have killed my bankroll.


i have been on this forum for 3 days now.. got holdem manager (luv it!)
Had $31 in my account. I have played nothing but $2NL.
4000 hands - im down to $13. lol
dont know if cash is for me...
Like playin MTTs - but my BR means i cant play in any for the meantime..
(exept the DFGathering)
I want to percevere with the cash games, but im not sure.?


GLALL
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