Online Poker Forum - flopping the nuts

shauncrock · High Card Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 1

just wondering how you guys bet when you flop the nut straight?invariably on a 9 seater table their are 4 or 5 of you involved in the hand,i always tend to bet strong to try and get rid of people on draws, normally get called by at least 2 people,the board pairs and iv lost a big chunk of cash!!what is the right way to approach this from a betting view point? Embarassed

iMnotLucky · Pair Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 27

If these people are calling a big bet, they are going to check with you if you decide to do that also. There is nothing you can do in this scenario really. Getting your money in the pot with the best hand is all you can do. In this example, you will win in the long run against someone playing draws. GL

HuJwang · Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject:

if there is an aggressive player after you who is likely to bet, then you can check/raise and get a big chunk of money into the pot. otherwise just pot it and hope for a good card.

dodge these · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject:

I actually think that unless you have redraws of your own it is a good idea to check and then bet any good turn card. Simply stated the nuts with no redraws with half the table seeing teh flop in fr is not likely to still be good at showdown, so you don't want to build a pot oop. As far as the c/r I'd still flat teh flop and do that ott, as you get them pot commited with what are now much better odds 4 u. An agro player will almost always fire a blank turn esp if he actually has legitimate draws, or if you think otherwise you can always lead out at that point... bottom line, for the very reason you stated in op, don't build a big pot if you're the one likely to be paying it off rather than raking it in.

19duke84 · Pair Joined: 09 May 2006 Posts: 27

I like to put in a pot sized bet with the nut straight on the flop; a set isn't going to reraise you in this spot and anyone with 2 pair and some sense is going to get out of the way. If the board pairs you're done with the hand but if not I'd bet the pot on the turn too (you're hand is still good so there's no reason not too; someone with just a set on the turn isn't getting anywhere near either the pot odds or implied odds so it's in your best interest to have them call...just be prepared to throw it away if the board pairs).

What you really need to take note of is what do you do when you get reraised the pot when you have the nut straight? At this point it's actually in your best interest to throw your hand away. The reasoning is that anyone (who isn't a donk) who reraises in this spot is extremely likely to have the exact same hand as you only with a flush or boat draw to go with it. Essentially you'll be getting all your money in on the flop (at a point where you have little invested) just to let the guy freeroll against you for your entire stack (and only to split the blinds...not a very good risk/reward ratio).

LitUp43 · Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:52 pm Post subject:

After getting stacked for like 2 week starting out I found a simple solution, pick better starting hands, fold garbage in EP in a FRG. You'll have a better shot at Freerolling to get the whole pot and you can feel comfortable driving the betting w/ the nuts. Building a big pot w/out any redraws like everyone said is scary and it's best to keep the pot under control if you can. I wish I could have read this thread before i started playing Omaha.

francois8 · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:28 pm Post subject:

LitUp43 · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject:

thanks, nice to be welcomed.

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