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Danduy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: First hand, hitting AK? Reply with quote

I rather call with AK when the betting will be closed against 3 players max. If more i will reraise.

I see myself having some trouble with this sometimes.

i've seen sets and i've seen KQ-KJ in this situation. What should be the best possible way to play the hand?

I should have raised, but i wanted to see what the turn brought. Any none club would good, the eight seemed not to have helped his hand but it did.

Full Tilt Poker, $10 + $1 NL Hold'em Sit n' Go, 15/30 Blinds, 9 Players
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SB: 1,500
Hero (BB): 1,500
UTG: 1,500
UTG+1: 1,500
UTG+2: 1,500
MP1: 1,500
MP2: 1,500
CO: 1,500
BTN: 1,500

Pre-Flop: (45) KSpade ASpade dealt to Hero (BB)
3 folds, MP1 raises to 90, 4 folds, Hero calls 60

Flop: (195) 4Club 6Club KHeart (2 Players)
Hero checks, MP1 bets 120, Hero calls 120

Turn: (435) 8Diamond (2 Players)
Hero bets 330, MP1 raises to 660, Hero raises to 1,290 and is All-In, MP1 calls 630 and is All-In

River: (3,015) TDiamond (2 Players - 1 is All-In)

Results: 3,015 Pot
Hero showed KSpade ASpade (a pair of Kings) and LOST (-1,500 NET)
MP1 showed 8Club 8Heart (three of a kind, Eights) and WON 3,015 (+1,515 NET)
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cardfish2
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please explain why you call the flop then lead the turn.
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Danduy
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I expected a C-bet and a call would keep it small and look like a mediocre hand. If no club would come, he might see it as a semi-bluff and would make a move.

So that's what happend and i moved in on him. Bad for me he hitted his hand and busted me out.

Was it better to take the pot right on the flop or let hem come on to me. I know this depends on the situation.
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Pokergal812
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Danduy wrote:
I expected a C-bet and a call would keep it small and look like a mediocre hand. If no club would come, he might see it as a semi-bluff and would make a move.

So that's what happend and i moved in on him. Bad for me he hitted his hand and busted me out.

Was it better to take the pot right on the flop or let hem come on to me. I know this depends on the situation.


While I like your thinking - (C-bet and reading you weak on that flop) I personally, like a re-raise on the flop - it's the first hand, I'm not terribly sad to take the pot down here and get a draw out off their hand or paying for it... often 8-8 will call and pay you off anyway. The turned set just sucked - that's poker. Not much you can do about that.

Now as a disclaimer, I do play mostly $2 SNG's - so at that level it's a different player. I could re-shove that flop and 8-8 is calling off their stack generally speaking...
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francois8
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see no reason not to check raise that flop to 350 ish. Let him think that maybe you're on a draw and give him the chance to do something stupid.
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Danduy
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, that's one off the better options actaully.

But how can this situations be propper solved? Even in first position:

- First hand off a s&g (5$ + 0,5$ - 9 handend, regulair speed)
- You're in early position and get AKs and raise to 90
- You get a late position call

Flop: A - 8 - 4 with two suits (no suits match yours)

1) You place a 180 bet and get called - a third different suit comes on the turn?
2) You place a 180 bet and get raised to 450?
3) You place a 180 bet and get raised all-in?

Actually, these happen very common in s&g's. You have top pair, top kicker (TPTK).

1) You need to defend your hand here.
2) Looks like a suck-in bet. Do you need to pay off a set with such a hand?
3) WTF is this? Pair and flush draw? 2 pair?

I just want to see some suggestions off you guys and ladies to. Because you don't want to go broke on your first hand, but you also don't want someone to show you AQ or AJ after you fold TPTK.
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KyFried
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reraise PF to 180, pot bet +200 on the flop to let him know you have him beat, you have the best hand why do you give him a cheap draw?
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