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tracysanders I EAT MTTs
Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 8603 Location: ANOTHER FUQQUIN MINCASH
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:29 pm Post subject: $163 buyin- huge read on SB, turns crazy |
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OK- SB has limped behind in about 20 of 75 hands so far, literally every multiway limped pot he limps behind. He pots flop EVERY SINGLE TIME and shuts down if he gets played back at or on later streets.
I was thinking about repopping his flop bet here, but figured I could make a play later. The turn gives me an idiot straight, and he starts getting crazy. Do I stack off with the bottom straight here?
Full Tilt Poker $60,000 Guarantee No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 8 players -
The Official Hand History
UTG+1: t2895 M = 38.60
MP1: t2330 M = 31.07
MP2: t2025 M = 27
CO: t4595 M = 61.27
BTN: t2510 M = 33.47
SB: t6970 M = 92.93
Hero (BB): t3935 M = 52.47
UTG: t2320 M = 30.93
Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BB with Q 8
UTG calls t50, 5 folds, SB calls t25, Hero checks
Flop: (t150) J 2 T (3 players)
SB bets t150, Hero calls t150, UTG folds
Turn: (t450) 9 (2 players)
SB bets t400, Hero calls t400
River: (t1250) 5 (2 players)
SB bets t1100, Hero calls t1100 |
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marsupial311 Royal Flush
Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 738
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm probably shoving that river. With that read KQ is just as likely as a random set, two pair, TPTK, random pair. He could even have 78 for an even lower straight. The 2nd nuts are probably good here. |
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jeffr8 Inspector Gadget
Joined: 22 Oct 2006 Posts: 3639 Location: On a boat
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| His higher bet on the turn might of been to discourage you from chasing the straight, against his set or two pair. His river bet is that high because the 5 isn't a straight card, so he probably thinks his set/two pair is still good. I would feel confident raising on that river. |
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Riddim Moderator
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 10526 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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| This is not the idiot end of the straight and not trying to get stacks in here is really bad. Since he seems to shut down with his air anyway on future streets I would definitely raise turn since there's a bunch of scary rivers that will make him fold to a shove when he does have a hand, and also a bunch of draws he could've picked up that made him keep betting. |
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HuJwang Forum Blight
Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Posts: 9206 Location: Halifax, NS
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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first of all this isn't the bottom straight
second of all, you have the 2nd nuts vs a retard with a pot sized shove left
i prob raise turn btw since it looks like he likes his hand and you'd like to get it in before scare cards come |
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bleffo19 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 1517 Location: SYD, Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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what riddim said. i think vs. this guy not stacking off is losing alot of value
you dont have an idiot straight as already mentioned. |
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lovebeefstew Also likes tacos
Joined: 19 Apr 2007 Posts: 6751 Location: No income tax no VAT....
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Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Snap shove fist pump. |
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goomlah Message Board Junkie
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 1298 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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| yeah Goom would raise the turn to 1200-1400 and shove any non-paired card (flush unlikely here). As played I'd shove the river. |
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MPMTL Message Board Junkie
Joined: 07 Oct 2008 Posts: 1823
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Shove the river imo |
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JDizzzle72 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 5117
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| most standard river shove ive ever seen |
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