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muzmund
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:35 am    Post subject: 5NL, KK pre reraised on turn Reply with quote

I had played 34 hands on the table, only hand worth noting was I had AA v AA v 76o, ALL IN pre and the 76o won.

Villian had played 6 hands no notes on him

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saw flop

CO ($5)
Button ($1.69)
SB ($4.79)
BB ($10)
UTG ($2.67)
UTG+1 ($5.12)
Hero (MP1) ($7.96)
MP2 ($8.10)
MP3 ($10.42)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K, K
2 folds, Hero bets $0.15, MP2 calls $0.15, 1 fold, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.52) 8, 9, 2 (3 players)
Hero bets $0.30, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.12) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.80, CO raises to $2.41

At this point I'm thinking 88 or 99 are certainly in his range
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is tough because i think that if he had 1010 or A9 then he would just raise the flop and then i'd say get it in. But the fact he didn't seem scared to let you see the turn does indicate a set. I dont really like folding an overpair when the villain could potentially play a worse overpair like this (or TPTK). So, i think as bad as folding feels, i'd fold because of what i said about him raising the flop with worse made hands, and i see he is ful stacks so i'd give him respect that he was somewhat compitable.

Actually i think you could call, then check fold the river if he bets again because theres a few cards that might stop him from betting, so you'd get to show down your hand.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolan6 wrote:
Actually i think you could call, then check fold the river if he bets again because theres a few cards that might stop him from betting, so you'd get to show down your hand.


I'm pretty sure this would just be massive spew, especially considering I would expect this guy to shove the river 100% after his turn raise, and we'd be getting ~4:1 on a call.

I'm probably folding this barring reads that this guy is a maniac.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the kings only have to be ahead 25% of the time to call though.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nolan6 wrote:
the kings only have to be ahead 25% of the time to call though.


Yeah except we also have to call the turn raise first.

OP, against an unknown I'd fold this.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah this is a fold imo. I can't really see him showing up with overpairs we beat and there aren't many draws out there. Furthermore, it's unlikely for people to call flop and then all of a sudden raise the turn on a blank with those smaller overpairs/draws.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the advice all!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did say folding first before i mentioned calling, but yeak turn raises are normally big hands at micros.
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