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adam27x
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 Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: 50nl - Two hands vs the same reg. |
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I haven't been playing much at all and I feel like my game is a bit rusty, so let's see:
Villain is 21/14 over 135 hands. He seems pretty competent dispite the wide vpip/pfr. We've been getting into some battles, as you'll see.
First hand. I don't think I like my line here. He had a stronger image than the one above in my mind this time, it seems as though he was a competent reg. Fwiw, I knew that he could float, so I decided to c/c turn instead of double barreling to let him bluff at the overcard. Too fancy? I feel like firing a second barrel just gets him to fold everything that I beat.
When he checks back the turn I thought his range was pretty weak consisting of a lot of mid pairs that would probably just check it back OTR so I thought going for some thin value might be best. When he raises I guess his line could rep a set or like 98s, and I don't feel like he's bluffing often because wouldn't he have just fired the turn? ugh.
Grabbed by
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($50)
BB ($88.40)
UTG ($50.75)
UTG+1 ($15)
UTG+2 ($9.75)
CO ($9.75)
BTN ($23.40)
Dealt to Hero Q T
fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2, BB calls $1.50
FLOP ($4) 8 4 2
Hero bets $2.75, BB calls $2.75
TURN ($9.50) 8 4 2 Q
Hero checks, BB checks
RIVER ($9.50) 8 4 2 Q 9
Hero bets $5.50, BB raises to $16, Hero folds
After that, we played this significant hand:
My turn bet was a misclick due to action on two other tables at the time (I actually had a set of 7s on two tables, lol). So now I have no idea if he called because my bet was small or if that froze him from raising, which kinda sucks.
Grabbed by
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($50.25)
BB ($15)
UTG ($9.75)
UTG+1 ($9.75)
UTG+2 ($23.40)
Hero ($50)
BTN ($98.15)
Dealt to Hero 7 7
UTG calls $0.50, fold, UTG+2 calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.75, BTN calls $2.75, SB calls $2.50, fold, fold, fold
FLOP ($9.75) 7 9 A
SB checks, Hero bets $7.50, BTN calls $7.50, SB folds
TURN ($24.75) 7 9 A 5
Hero bets $11, BTN calls $11
RIVER ($46.75) 7 9 A 5 K
Hero bets $28.75 (AI), BTN calls $28.75
Hero shows 7 7
(Pre 55%, Flop 94.4%, Turn 81.8%)
BTN shows A Q
(Pre 45%, Flop 5.6%, Turn 18.2%)
Hero wins $101
Hand 2. Again, recall that I know for a fact he can float with overcards on dry boards. When he calls my cbet on a board like this one I feel as though I need to give him some credit. Is the turn DB good? Do I just give up now OTR?
Grabbed by
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($50.25)
BB ($21.90)
UTG ($10.75)
UTG+1 ($12)
Hero ($102)
BTN ($52.95)
Dealt to Hero 7 6
fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, fold, fold
FLOP ($4.25) 5 4 9
Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3
TURN ($10.25) 5 4 9 A
Hero bets $7.50, BTN calls $7.50
RIVER ($25.25) 5 4 9 A Q
Hero? |
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templar rage
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| Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hand 1: I'm probably c/c the river as played. If he is capable of floating, I think he may be capable of realizing your line kinda looks FOS as played. Whether or not he can bluff-raise you here is another story, but I think a check would probably induce a bluff here most of the time that we can pick off, whereas betting just opens you up to getting owned like you did.
Hand 2: Looks fine, except for the misclick. Quite honestly I doubt it made that much of a difference. Out of curiousity, what did you mean to bet?
Hand 3: I think the DB is ok, since the ace is a decent card to barrel. I also think giving up on the river is fine too, since I don't really see him folding anything but a flush draw, and a bunch of his flush draws have probably also made a pair on the side that he may decide to take to showdown. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I'd bet bigger on the river in 1 and probably c/f river in 2 since no draws hit. The rest looks fine, although an argument can definitely be made for betting turn in the first hand unless he floats a lot. It's BvB and the board is dry enough that I would be pretty comfortable going for 3 streets of value vs. a fair amount of regs. When he floats a lot things obviously change though, because not only do you miss value from his air by betting, it's also way easier for him to have a better hand because he can show up with QJ and KQ. |
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conanav
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:02 am Post subject: |
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| Riddim wrote: |
| I'd bet bigger on the river in 1 and probably c/f river in 2 since no draws hit. The rest looks fine, although an argument can definitely be made for betting turn in the first hand unless he floats a lot. It's BvB and the board is dry enough that I would be pretty comfortable going for 3 streets of value vs. a fair amount of regs. When he floats a lot things obviously change though, because not only do you miss value from his air by betting, it's also way easier for him to have a better hand because he can show up with QJ and KQ. |
Why would you c/f in the second hand if no draws hit? Do you mean c/c instead? If you are c/folding the river everytime the FD hits on the turn, what is the point of even betting the turn. Also, AhX is also possible and definitely worth for the opponent to call on the turn and river. Plus on the river, even in this situation you have way less than a pot bet left if you bet the turn. If adam bet normally around 16-$18 that would leave him with about $20 for a pot of approx. $60. He has to be right approx 1:3 times for this to be a profitable call on the river, and without some really solid read on the opponent it's hard to say that he isn't going to be with a set. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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| conanav wrote: |
| Riddim wrote: |
| I'd bet bigger on the river in 1 and probably c/f river in 2 since no draws hit. The rest looks fine, although an argument can definitely be made for betting turn in the first hand unless he floats a lot. It's BvB and the board is dry enough that I would be pretty comfortable going for 3 streets of value vs. a fair amount of regs. When he floats a lot things obviously change though, because not only do you miss value from his air by betting, it's also way easier for him to have a better hand because he can show up with QJ and KQ. |
Why would you c/f in the second hand if no draws hit? Do you mean c/c instead? If you are c/folding the river everytime the FD hits on the turn, what is the point of even betting the turn. Also, AhX is also possible and definitely worth for the opponent to call on the turn and river. Plus on the river, even in this situation you have way less than a pot bet left if you bet the turn. If adam bet normally around 16-$18 that would leave him with about $20 for a pot of approx. $60. He has to be right approx 1:3 times for this to be a profitable call on the river, and without some really solid read on the opponent it's hard to say that he isn't going to be with a set. |
Hand 2 isn't the hand with 77, he just posted that one to provide background for the 76 hand. |
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adam27x
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| templar rage wrote: |
| Out of curiousity, what did you mean to bet? |
probably around 18. I don't even know how I messed it up that badly, lol.
Riddim why do you want to bet the river bigger in hand 1? I bet it smallish just because most of the hands I'm trying to get value from are pretty weak. I don't think he'll bluffraise me because of my sizing alone, but I guess I can't be certain of that. |
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Riddim
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| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Because all of his hands are basically bluffcatchers and it really looks like you're valuebetting when you bet that small, plus you obviously win more when called by worse when you bet bigger. |
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