Online Poker Forum - 10NL AK facing 3bet from reg

templar rage · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject: 10NL AK facing 3bet from reg

Villain is 11/9/inf over 100 hands.

I had been running 24/20/6 on this table, but if the guy has older stats, I probably show up as somewhat tighter since I normally run something like 14/11/3 at FR. I've been experimenting with my 6max style the last couple days at FR, which are 23/16/4, and it's gone alright so far.

Every option felt gross here. The guy has seemed competent, so I think he could be 3betting a bit wider here if he believes me to be iso-ing the limper, combined with my looser play. Both shoving and calling seem terrible though.

If I'm calling, what am I doing on a Kxx or Axx board?

Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
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UTG+2: $21.30
Hero (MP1): $10
MP2: $19.38
CO: $11.44
BTN: $10.19
SB: $19.10
BB: $10.15
UTG: $10
UTG+1: $15.16

Pre-Flop: K Heart

A

dealt to Hero (MP1)
2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, BTN raises to $1.30, 3 folds, Hero?

Flying_Kiwi · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 9:00 pm Post subject:

4bet.

lurgertor · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject:

templar rage · Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject:

Timdef2000 · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 3:52 am Post subject:

I would call, play poker on the turn, depending on what he fires if he does on the turn its a **** spot but i might let it go seeing he plays somewhat TAG and probably has you crushed or your not ahead by much, at best id say split with another AK

MattVegasPwn · Message Board Junkie Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 1046

Can we not put AQ in his range? or did you feel he is checking that behind?

HuJwang · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:10 am Post subject:

this guy seems super nitty... i might just fold pre unless he 3bets more than his stats would suggest

adam27x · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:09 am Post subject:

G Goddard · Four of a Kind Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 279

Fold or 4-bet get it in. Both are okay in my mind. Also, don't rely on stats over such a small sample.

templar rage · Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:30 pm Post subject:

For anyone that still cares, here's how I finished butchering the hand.

Flop: ($2.85) 4 Heart

Q

K

(2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.50, Hero raises to $3, BTN folds

Results: $5.85 Pot ($0.39 Rake)
Hero showed K Heart

A

and WON $5.46 (+$2.66 NET)

He actually tank-folded to my min-raise. Just a bit of a guess, but he may have tossed AK. Maybe he leveled himself into believing I had exactly QQ there. Could have just been a little hollywooding, but IME regs don't bother with that kind of retarded stuff. Weird it shows that I showed the hand when I didn't.

HuJwang · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:03 am Post subject:

i was going to say there's 0% chance he mucked AK here, but then i remembered it's 10NL and so there's probably a decent chance he's bad enough to fold AK. still though i think usually he has JJ or AQ or something. i don't like any part of your flop minraise... are you raising to see where you're at? are you thinking you're going to get value from JJ or AQ? what's your plan if he flats or shoves?

templar rage · Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:21 am Post subject:

I hate it too, and quite frankly I have no idea what I was thinking. There really was no plan behind it. I guess maybe I was hoping he would level himself into a fold, which it appears he did with whatever he had, but I agree it was pretty bad.

About the AK, it was really just a guess based on the assumptions that most regs don't have no use for trying to sell a big fold. In my experience, they only tank if they genuinely have a decision, since most of them are mass-tabling and can't really be bothered to do such things. That could be way off though, IDK. I guess AQ could have a decision as to whether or not I'm being a retard, which I kinda was, but I don't think so. Most players like that are going to be snap-folding AQ/JJ to a raise.

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