Online Poker Forum - Do i need a break here?

Danduy · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: Do i need a break here?

Two weeks ago i took a fresh start. Decent bankroll management (35 buy-ins to start with), pay a lot of attention on the other players, etc etc.

The past two weeks where quite a good run. Doubled my bankroll and cashed out some. I was doing well and kept a 50 buy-inn bankroll to play the 11$ tables.

The past two days have been a complete disaster for me. I played about 30 games and only cashed two 1st places and 1 third. Today actually was the worst ever. Yesterday i took a shot to begin with the iron man challenge because i make my 100 points a day with ease. (About 18-20 s&g for 11$ a day).
But my bankroll almost dropped to half it was used to be. I know that a bad run off cards can't be avoided and i still keep playing my strategy, because for me it is a good one. The beats i've seen the past two days... Well, they happen in poker but there was nothing i could do about it. I'm not gonna cry about bad beats and how terrible some players are.

I do not tilt so easy and i go in with the best off it. I'm a critical player and my first two weeks i didn't cash on suck-outs or lucky hands.

I'm only concerned this run could and eventually will affect my play so my bankroll will become even slimmer.

Any advice on how too handle such a situation?

tjb111 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 2960

drop down..it happens

Danduy · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:15 pm Post subject:

That's the thing. I know i can compete at this level and it's harder then i thougt to drop a level.

But you are right, if i can get back on track i can go to the level. Didn't thought of it actually.

anfieldassassin · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:55 am Post subject:

If it's anything, I went through exactly the same as you went through, cashing only a few times in 30-40 games, after coming back from a 2 week holiday. I only play the $6 games and after that downswing, I thought I had lost my mojo. From there though I have played on and have found that I've recovered just over half of the profit lost in the 30 subsequent games so bad runs do end and now I very occasionally suck out on people instead of the other way around!

When I was at my lowest I dropped down for a few games but then stepped back up when I was ready.

I'm sure you'll come good very soon.

Danduy · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject:

I played the 5+0,5$ for while (a day or so) and it seemed to work out better. I think it was just a very bad run here.
I tried the 10+1$ and made some profit again to make up the losses. I know that a sit & go bankroll doesn't go in a steady line. But this was a little over the edge.
So i'm back where i started from. So thanx for the support guys. I didn't thought of it to go back to the smaller games. I helped me out here.

marsupial311 · Royal Flush Joined: 14 Oct 2008 Posts: 502

Danduy · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:14 pm Post subject:

It's true, today i noticed my behavior has changed from what it used to be. I started out playing this morning and a bad run came over me again.

The first 6 tournaments this morning:

I got rivered 2 times in 4th and 5th when aproxx. 90% favor

I bubbled a tournament in two hands when chiplead. My hand JJ vs AJ and the hand just after that my hand AA vs AK. I lost them both and got kicked out when i only had 200 chips left.

I hitted a set off fours againt a set of queens 7th place

I missed a straight flush draw with two overcards with turn and river still to come against a pair of nines in 6th place

I cashed 3rd place AQ vs K9 on a Q-9-6 flop and a King on the river.

This stuff is going on for the past few days. This all happend at the 5$ s&g's. And there is nothing i can do about it. The tournaments i played after that didn't go to well. I played way to conservative at this point and that's killed me the next s&g's i played. I think i need a few days off. I played 40 s&g's today and cashed only 1st three times, 2nd two times and third also 2 times in a 6 hour time period.
I even sucked out myself 2 times where i ended first. So i didn't had the best hand to begin with then.

My mind is somehow clouded and i can't stop thinking about getting rivered. I don't even play the strong hands as i should, just because the threat off a better hand.

So i'm leaving the game for a while and the iron man challenge will have to wait untill a better time and when my bankroll is up.

Pokergal812 · Flush Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 150 Location: Jersey

Easier said than done but yes I think you should take a break when you start beginning to expect getting rivered. I know I need a break when pre-flop I show my AA & opponent shows 2-4 and I just "know" 3-5-6 is hitting... or when I'm not raising correctly or folding probably the best hand when I assume the opponent just "has to have" the one outer in his hand...

When you know you're not playing your best (expecting to get rivered, playing too conservatively, playing loosely because maybe - your 2-4 will get there...) you know it's time to say buh bye for a day or two.

I've definitely been there.

Danduy · Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:12 pm Post subject:

Well, the break is over and i'm back in the running after dropping with my ROI to 0%. Just played one and here we go again. Two hands from the same sit and go.

The call with the Queens is questionalble. But the SB was a loose player and i had to take the chance. Even if he had AA-AK-KK i would still be in a good shape with the chip loss.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (5 handed) - Converter Tool from

BB (t3420)
UTG (t1310)
Hero (MP) (t2800)
Button (t4555)
SB (t1415)

Hero's M: 37.33

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

, Q

1 fold, Hero bets t150, Button calls t150, SB raises to t1415 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls t1265, 1 fold

Flop: (t3030) 7

, 2

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t3030) 4

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t3030) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t3030

Results:
SB had 7

, 7

(full house, sevens over twos).
Hero had Q

, Q

(two pair, Queens and twos).
Outcome: SB won t3030

This was very nice. Well these things happen and i managed to build my stack back up with a flopped Ace high flush and i past the bubble. Then we got this. I was thinking about 1st place already:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (3 handed) - Converter Tool from

SB (t6075)
Hero (BB) (t3420)
Button (t4005)

Hero's M: 11.40

Preflop: Hero is BB with K

, K

Button calls t200, SB bets t800, Hero raises to t3420 (All-In), 1 fold, SB calls t2620

Flop: (t7040) A

, 8

, A

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t7040) 9

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t7040) 8

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t7040

Results:
SB had 9

, 9

(full house, nines over Aces).
Hero had K

, K

(two pair, Aces and Kings).
Outcome: SB won t7040

Well, guess i need a longer break. These are 2 of three pocket pairs i got. I folded 22 UTG.

These are the kind of things that make me go a little tilting.

I looked at my PT3 HH and i've seen that AA got beat 21 times of 59 times where the money went in preflop.

My KK got beat 34 times of 63 times where the chips went in preflop.

Sure, my PT3 tells me that Aces and Kings won about 90% off the time. But this includes folded to my BB where i had a big PP or a raise where everyone folds.

Pokergal812 · Flush Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Posts: 150 Location: Jersey

pretty yucky. been there too!

lynx9292 · Pair Joined: 27 Oct 2009 Posts: 21

at least your loss was a bunch of sit n go's its easier to recover from that then a bad run @ a live cash game trust me I know .. and have stopped playing live for a while after a few terrible terrible days I could go on and on about the bad beats but thats poker I just accept it take it for what it is and move on to the next hand/game.

Danduy · Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:47 pm Post subject:

The cash games i play live with my 'poker'friends are, for me, quite profitable (€0,25 - €0,50). I managed to play online with the money i make from them.
But we play only a few times a month. So not much of an income there. So online was an other option.

But so far i didn't get to far. But i won't give up. There are people who can make a living with this stuff, so with some work, study and effort i should make it to such a level. Not like the pro's perhaps, but if i can make a 'side-job' from it, it would spending time usefully.

But as said before, the break is over and i'm ready to give it another go. But so far it still didn't worked out well. Except 1 table. I got a Royal flush, quads and pocket aces in three hands. So winning that one was obvious. Hell NO, i got 2nd best.

The reads are most off the time correct but the outcome isn't. I don't mind to get outdrawn. It's a part of poker. But if i see the times at the bubble where it happens, i get sick.

But hey, new bankroll, new start and a bonus offer that awaits me allong side with the FTP's i'm saving for, i'm willing to go to the bitter end.

Thankx for listening to my frustration !!

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