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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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| bleffo19 wrote: |
| jaejaejae wrote: |
2nd Game HH's
4/74 @ first break
good result but looking at this hand I should have raised more due to possition and the min. raise before me...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Converter Tool from
MP3 (t3205)
CO (t1640)
Button (t3310)
SB (t3065)
BB (t2620)
UTG (t3545)
Hero (UTG+1) (t3315)
MP1 (t4020)
MP2 (t3100)
Hero's M: 44.20
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A , A
UTG bets t100, Hero raises to t300, 2 folds, MP3 calls t300, CO calls t300, 3 folds, UTG calls t200
Flop: (t1275) 9, 6 , 6 (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t1350, MP3 calls t1350, 2 folds
Turn: (t3975) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets t1665 (All-In), MP3 calls t1555 (All-In)
River: (t7085) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: t7085
Results:
Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and sixes).
MP3 had 9, A (two pair, nines and sixes).
Outcome: Hero won t7085 |
u played it fine dw jae.
if u like you could have made it 350 pre - but thats just plucking at hairs.
i don't bet as much OTF tho - make it like 750 - there really aren't too many draws out there that make up his range pre-flop.
other than that wp!
hope this BAP goes well for you! |
I was looking thru this again and my raise amount OTF was because there were 3 others still invovled in the pot... is the 750 still the correct thing to do or does this leave a possibility of someone willing to chase?? I basically wanted people off this hand once I got 3 calls with my 3X bet... Didn't like that there were 4 of us getting a look at the flop... we all know what happens to AA with more people involved.
Please advise.
jae |
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TinkyTyler
Royal Flush
Joined: 15 Jun 2008
Posts: 982
Location: Toronto
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| jaejaejae wrote: |
| bleffo19 wrote: |
| jaejaejae wrote: |
2nd Game HH's
4/74 @ first break
good result but looking at this hand I should have raised more due to possition and the min. raise before me...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Converter Tool from
MP3 (t3205)
CO (t1640)
Button (t3310)
SB (t3065)
BB (t2620)
UTG (t3545)
Hero (UTG+1) (t3315)
MP1 (t4020)
MP2 (t3100)
Hero's M: 44.20
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A
UTG bets t100, Hero raises to t300, 2 folds, MP3 calls t300, CO calls t300, 3 folds, UTG calls t200
Flop: (t1275) 9, 6, 6 (4 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t1350, MP3 calls t1350, 2 folds
Turn: (t3975) 10 (2 players)
Hero bets t1665 (All-In), MP3 calls t1555 (All-In)
River: (t7085) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: t7085
Results:
Hero had A, A (two pair, Aces and sixes).
MP3 had 9, A (two pair, nines and sixes).
Outcome: Hero won t7085 |
u played it fine dw jae.
if u like you could have made it 350 pre - but thats just plucking at hairs.
i don't bet as much OTF tho - make it like 750 - there really aren't too many draws out there that make up his range pre-flop.
other than that wp!
hope this BAP goes well for you! |
I was looking thru this again and my raise amount OTF was because there were 3 others still invovled in the pot... is the 750 still the correct thing to do or does this leave a possibility of someone willing to chase?? I basically wanted people off this hand once I got 3 calls with my 3X bet... Didn't like that there were 4 of us getting a look at the flop... we all know what happens to AA with more people involved.
Please advise.
jae |
The thing thats key is how non-drawy the board is... sure there are 2 people in the pot but its pretty unlikely anyone is drawing to something.. no flush draws, and a weird straight draw. Sure 78 is possible, but pretty unlikely. I probably bet around 850, and shove the last 2400 on pretty much any turn. |
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bleffo19
Straight Flush
Joined: 30 Apr 2009
Posts: 415
Location: SYD, Australia - the one and only
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| The thing thats key is how non-drawy the board is... sure there are 2 people in the pot but its pretty unlikely anyone is drawing to something.. no flush draws, and a weird straight draw. Sure 78 is possible, but pretty unlikely. I probably bet around 850, and shove the last 2400 on pretty much any turn. |
+1. we don't want to overbet the pot here to chase out draws, simply because there aren't any. like TT says, there is possibly 78 - but it's unlikely - thus on that board there are NO draws that make up his preflop calling range. bet flop ~750-800 and jam turn. ez game |
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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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Game 3: Embarrassed to even say I played this game... Played 1 hand poorly... that put my down early... got frustrated with 4-5 people calling 3/4x raises... and did something stupid like pushed all in with J/9 suited because I was frustrated that no one ever f'ing folded... needless to say I think I went up against A/K... Bottom line... played like an @ss...
Game 4: I managed to take 3rd... redeemed my play from game 3...
I made the mistake of trying to out last another player for 2nd that I basically blinded out... 1st had a HUGE chip lead while 2nd and 3rd had almost exact chip stacks... we were both waiting for the other to bust... I figured 2nd was going to be best case because of the leaders stack and was hoping to milk a little extra $$... Next time I play hands before letting the blindes put me all in...
I took KyFried's advice about pasting hand #'s and I'm having trouble finding my damn HH by the #.... I'll keep looking so I can post them
I'm tired from staying up until 1am watching MattE... taking down 1.8k ... so even tho I'm happy that I made a final table I'm going to shut it down for the night because I'm mentally tired and don't feel I can focus...
So what I'm going to do is chill out at the 10cent forum tourny... and if I manage to cash I'm going to put it towards our BAP pool money... so wish me luck....  I'm 11/73 as I finish this up.
Like I said I will continue to find some of the hands that I wanted to post.
I'll update the 1st page shortly |
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deadmeat82
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
Posts: 772
Location: rakeback 4 everybody else plz!!!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:44 am Post subject: |
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| great job jae, things are lookin' good |
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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:01 am Post subject: |
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Game 3: Embarrassed to even say I played this game... Played 1 hand poorly... that put my down early... got frustrated with 4-5 people calling 3/4x raises... and did something stupid like pushed all in with J/9 suited because I was frustrated that no one ever f'ing folded... needless to say I think I went up against A/K... Bottom line... played like an @ss...
Game 4: I managed to take 3rd... redeemed my play from game 3...
I made the mistake of trying to out last another player for 2nd that I basically blinded out... 1st had a HUGE chip lead while 2nd and 3rd had almost exact chip stacks... we were both waiting for the other to bust... I figured 2nd was going to be best case because of the leaders stack and was hoping to milk a little extra $$... Next time I play hands before letting the blindes put me all in...
I took KyFried's advice about pasting hand #'s and I'm having trouble finding my damn HH by the #.... I'll keep looking so I can post them
I'm tired from staying up until 1am watching MattE... taking down 1.8k ... so even tho I'm happy that I made a final table I'm going to shut it down for the night because I'm mentally tired and don't feel I can focus...
So what I'm going to do is chill out at the 10cent forum tourny... and if I manage to cash I'm going to put it towards our BAP pool money... so wish me luck.... I'm 11/73 as I finish this up.
Like I said I will continue to find some of the hands that I wanted to post.
I'll update the 1st page shortly |
Was talking with MattE. last night about what to do when I come to a table like I did in game 3. In short what was happening at this table was that 50% of the players wanted to see the flop... Everyone was willing to call it down and the majority of the table was willing to call a raise to see the flop... So when I would raise with something like A/K or A/Qs I was getting 3 or 4 people to call... and when I didn't catch the flop it's safe to assume 1 of the others did...
So my plan next time is:
1. If I'm the first to act I will raise but I'm dropping my raise from 3-4x down to 2.5x that way I still show some strength but at the same time it won't be as hard to get out of the hand if I have to.
2. If there is action before me then I'm following suite and limping in with the rest to see if I get a limp special.. (obviously if its a hand worth playing).
Of all table playing styles this is the one I hate the most. (have to see the flop).. its almost like a home game with your friends who don't know anyting about poker) I guess some would say they love this style but I don't think my game is advanced enough at this point to rip these people apart. I hope with the help from everyone I will be able to at some point so with that said... anyone else have advice for this style of play... anyone have issue with how I plan on playing this style next time? The more input the better...
I hope to run a game or two tonight so I'll keep you all updated. |
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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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| great job jae, things are lookin' good |
thanks dm... it's a little relief to be in the money already... still wish I had not bubbled in the first game (that would have been nice) but I'm still happy at this point. |
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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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GAME 5 HH's
table again wants to see the flop so I min. raise knowing I'm going to get calls... didn't catch and decided to c-bet... was folding to any re-raise but it never came...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (8 handed) - Converter Tool from
UTG (t3220)
UTG+1 (t4255)
MP1 (t6390)
Hero (MP2) (t3335)
CO (t3165)
Button (t2820)
SB (t5510)
BB (t3405)
Hero's M: 44.47
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, J
UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, 1 fold, Hero bets t100, 3 folds, BB calls t50, UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50
Flop: (t425) 6, K, 2 (4 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, Hero bets t300, 3 folds
Total pot: t425
Results:
Hero didn't show A, J (nothing).
Outcome: Hero won t425 |
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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:09 am Post subject: |
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I had 2 other hands that I wanted to post but didn't copy the entire hand so it's useless... I'm also pissed and don't have it in me right now to go find them so I will post the hand that I f'ing busted out with...
When I raised I assumed the short stack was going to call... I planned on calling obviously... but when the BB called I felt I could push him off with a shove...
Thoughts? Is my play bad here? Help plz.
I'm kind of pissed that he called my shove with A/Q after I already raised... UGH and he f'ing catches the river... still burning my ***...
Bad play or bad luck???
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (8 handed) - Converter Tool from
Button (t1080)
SB (t12257)
BB (t10715)
UTG (t6720)
Hero (UTG+1) (t4570)
MP1 (t3320)
MP2 (t11150)
CO (t13318)
Hero's M: 15.23
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 4, 4
1 fold, Hero bets t600, 3 folds, Button raises to t1080 (All-In), 1 fold, BB raises to t1560, Hero raises to t4570 (All-In), BB calls t3010
Flop: (t10320) K, 6, 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: (t10320) 5 (3 players, 2 all-in)
River: (t10320) K (3 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: t10320
Results:
Button had 3, 3 (two pair, Kings and threes).
BB had Q, A (flush, Ace high).
Hero had 4, 4 (two pair, Kings and fours).
Outcome: BB won t10320 |
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KyFried
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Joined: 07 Jan 2009
Posts: 3842
Location: Hilton Head & Greenville,South Carolina
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| Right or wrong when I'm UTG 1 or 2 even Mid with 4 4 I'm probably folding unless I have enough chips then maybe limp/fold, too many behind you and a decent raise from them means your most likely behind if not beat. But thats just me. |
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jaejaejae
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Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| Right or wrong when I'm UTG 1 or 2 even Mid with 4 4 I'm probably folding unless I have enough chips then maybe limp/fold, too many behind you and a decent raise from them means your most likely behind if not beat. But thats just me. |
Normally I don't touch 44 myself and esp. not in this possition but the table was folding to pre-flop raises (was kind of trying to buy the blinds) and I wasn't worried about the short stack pushing...
Looking back I probably should have folded to the BB call... Actually now that I'm no longer pissed this was probably not a good spot to try to double up... I'll chalk it up as bad play on my part. Just sucks when you manage to hang on until the river. |
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tracysanders
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Location: ANOTHER FUQQIN MINCASH...
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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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LMAO thanks TS I needed the inspiration... Love that you stuck with the Ricky Bobby theme... awesome!!! 
Why is it... the more I look at this hand the more I keep thinking to myself...  why? why the hell did I play this... 
I'm taking this insperation with me tonight and kicking someones @ss... I feel a FT tonight.  |
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Rook1969
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| Ship it! |
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jaejaejae
Royal Flush
Joined: 22 Dec 2006
Posts: 608
Location: Down at the "River" getting my @ss kicked!
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HH for game 6:
This was my first hand that I played... as always half the table "has" to see the f'ing flop. I always get nervous with AA when there are a bunch of players seeing the flop.
Did I over react on the flop with my raise? Pushing on the turn correct?
Please advise
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 3.3 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (8 handed) - Converter Tool from
BB (t3345)
UTG (t4290)
UTG+1 (t2985)
MP1 (t9330)
MP2 (t5740)
Hero (CO) (t2955)
Button (t2740)
SB (t1930)
Hero's M: 49.25
Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A
BB calls t40, 2 folds, MP1 bets t120, MP2 calls t120, Hero raises to t400, 2 folds, BB calls t360, MP1 calls t280, MP2 calls t280
Flop: (t1640) 7, Q, 9 (4 players)
BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets t1080, BB calls t1080, 2 folds
Turn: (t3800) 2 (2 players)
BB bets t1865 (All-In), Hero calls t1475 (All-In)
River: (t6750) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: t6750 |
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