Online Poker Forum - BAP closed,again

francois8 · Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:17 pm Post subject:

Care to say why?

bigpairde · Moderator Joined: 26 Apr 2008 Posts: 10100

tjb,
just calm down a bit.

fwiw, this is why I decided to not invest this time (though I considered it)
-urgency:
I just get super reluctant to spend money if the person asking for it makes that an urgent case.
this is where you failed in the first place imo.
i don't have that much of an issue with the fact that you are broke and can't take a good amount of shares yourself, as we have been there and all went fine back then. that you openly say you are broke is a good thing imo.
I just really disliked that you came back and urgently wanted to play and had this as the bap motiviation.
i would have liked it better, if you would have said something like that:
guys, i am back but broke. I would like to run a bap in the near future, these are the terms i have in mind.....
seriously: if you are broke and can't play atm, whats the difference if you can play today or in a week, compared to whatever the alternative is.

-attitude:
trying to make a bap for Sit and goes (!) and saying that you might have to leave in the middle of the games for a few minutes, just doesn't look as if you take the bap and the investors money serious enough.
it rather sounds like, 'yeah, cool you give me some moneys to play around with', instead of 'i am planning to give my very best to turn this into a profitable project for all of us'

i still think that you are +ev in the low stakes MTTs, and from that point of view it could be surprising that you have more troubles selling your BAPs than some other forumers who run BAPs but I wouldn't consider them +ev.
this however might very well be related to the displayed attitude in comparison.

tjb111 · forum BAP bumper Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 3783

bottlecapthief · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:51 am Post subject:

tracysanders · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:14 am Post subject:

TJB...

Seriously dude, almost everyone here is bringing up valid points imo. I have often in the past talked to you about how it seems like you think people "should" invest in you- it is their money to invest in whomever they choose, or not invest at all.

You are indeed handling youself immaturely when you are getting smart with would be investors, and though I have no doubt in my mind that you have the ability to be successful with your poker ventures- I have to say that you are handling feeback on running BAPs the same way Mikah handles feedback on the hands he plays poorly. It is fairly simple- the more you post BAPs that do not sell out, and b*tch about it, the less people will want to invest in your future BAPs. You need to maintain yourself in a professional manner even if others who post in your threads do not.

Perfect example- you have people telling you that your grammar sucks, and your BAP threads are a trainwreck.

Your reply to them should be something along the lines of " I hadn't really considered such things would be such an important factor, I will work on fixing this."

Instead your reply " dude it's fcking shorthand, apparently I am typing well enough to get my point across" "Isn't the sole purpose of BAPs to make money, who cares if my rail thread is a trainwreck- I had 1000%roi for one of my BAPs"

You see my point, rather than taking the information that others are giving you and working out a very good BAP- typed up and worded nicely with proper grammar, punctuation, and decent spelling--- you are choosing to argue with the very people who are telling you " the reasons I won't invest are:.......".

I was still willing to give you a shot, even staked you privately awhile back- but to be honest you really should work on these things and stop arguing with the people who are answering the questions you are pretty much asking as to why they won't invest in you but they keep investing in other players whom you consider below your level.

ripped 247 · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:15 am Post subject:

lovebeefstew · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:25 pm Post subject:

Oh dear lord.

jaejaejae · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:47 pm Post subject:

deadmeat82 · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:56 pm Post subject:

This made me think of this thread...

...im just sayin'...

tjb111 · forum BAP bumper Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 3783

to ripped- ya... asking for stakes was against the rules and i completely forgot about that rule.

to TS- ya.. i definately get where your coming from. but its seriously hard when i first get cubbies jump on me, which after i noticed it was just hurting i asked him to leave my thread. THEN I GET MORE PEOPLE JUMPING ON ME. Sure, i can definately work on grammar and **** (although if i make a BAP again, ill plead for someoen else to make me the BAP layout and stuff..so i dont **** it up.)
--I dont see the point of the "you made a BAP that didnt sell out, so u shouldnt make another one" though. The first BAP was reallllyy un-organized and quickly put together, and i believed (at the time) i didnt give enough time to the investors. The second BAP on the other hand i thought was at least organized. I knew what i wanted to do, gave everyone a set time, and waited pretty patiently (i bumped it 1nce in 8 hours?....)

---to everone else who is seriously just posting for the fun of it..stop..its a dead BAP.

--to everyone that wants to comment on this further..PM ME

-- to francois8.. mssg me on MSN ?

lovebeefstew · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:37 am Post subject:

I haven't read this thread, i will do eventually. But TJB you come across a huge douche ITT. If you wish to compare IQ's, or penis sizes for that matter, I'll happily take the challenge, pull your pants down and smack your botty like mummy does.

cubbies760 · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:42 am Post subject:

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