Online Poker Forum - Finished around 170th in the 750k because of this hand.

dain32 · High Card Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 14

I know JQ suited is not a great hand, but i had folded for 2 rounds of hands before this and needed to take a risk. I dont regret the push on the flop, although I feel like most of you guys will disagree. Average stack was 65k.

Full Tilt Poker Game #15737918963: $750,000 Guarantee (111482643), Table 170 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:09:43 ET - 2009/11/01
Seat 1: Ame-Stram-Gram (34,979)
Seat 2: bobcards2 (40,810)
Seat 3: dain32 (24,947)
Seat 4: jazzsucks (7,665)
Seat 5: runforhome (150,017)
Seat 6: sintik222 (94,078)
Seat 7: Badgergav (95,761)
Seat 8: Every1s Problem (67,478)
Seat 9: IWORKDOYOU (118,768)
Ame-Stram-Gram antes 300
bobcards2 antes 300
dain32 antes 300
jazzsucks antes 300
runforhome antes 300
sintik222 antes 300
Badgergav antes 300
Every1s Problem antes 300
IWORKDOYOU antes 300
IWORKDOYOU posts the small blind of 1,200
Ame-Stram-Gram posts the big blind of 2,400
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to dain32 [Qs Js]
bobcards2 folds
dain32 raises to 7,200
jazzsucks has 15 seconds left to act
jazzsucks folds
runforhome folds
sintik222 has 15 seconds left to act
sintik222 calls 7,200
Badgergav folds
Every1s Problem folds
IWORKDOYOU calls 6,000
Ame-Stram-Gram folds
*** FLOP *** [Kc 6h Th]
IWORKDOYOU checks
dain32 bets 17,447, and is all in
sintik222 has 15 seconds left to act
sintik222 raises to 38,400
IWORKDOYOU has 15 seconds left to act
IWORKDOYOU folds
sintik222 shows [Ts Tc]
dain32 shows [Qs Js]
Uncalled bet of 20,953 returned to sintik222
*** TURN *** [Kc 6h Th] [8d]
*** RIVER *** [Kc 6h Th 8d] [7d]
sintik222 shows three of a kind, Tens
dain32 shows King Queen high
sintik222 wins the pot (61,594) with three of a kind, Tens
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 61,594 | Rake 0
Board: [Kc 6h Th 8d 7d]
Seat 1: Ame-Stram-Gram (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: bobcards2 folded before the Flop
Seat 3: dain32 showed [Qs Js] and lost with King Queen high
Seat 4: jazzsucks folded before the Flop
Seat 5: runforhome folded before the Flop
Seat 6: sintik222 showed [Ts Tc] and won (61,594) with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 7: Badgergav folded before the Flop
Seat 8: Every1s Problem (button) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: IWORKDOYOU (small blind) folded on the Flop

Coasterbrad · Message Board Junkie Joined: 14 Jul 2008 Posts: 1117

After making your pre-flop raise you pretty much have to get it in on that flop if you are first to act.

tjb111 · forum BAP bumper Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 3783

wait, this hand is played awfully!

-shove pre or fold. i say fold this hand tho.

francois8 · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:43 pm Post subject:

Either shove or raise to like 5300 pf. As played, shove 100% of the time on this flop. I'm OK with such a gamble as opening with this hand, necessary to survive. Once your raise is > 20-25% of your stack, just shove, makes future decisions easier.

FWIW, the guy with TT made a terrible flat of your pf raise imo, he should have 3-bet you like 100% of the time there given the relative stacks.

tjb111 · forum BAP bumper Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 3783

francois?..why ARENT we in shove/fold mode

we have 10BBs, and thats desperation time!

dain32 · High Card Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 14

ive read a lot of poker books, most of them talk about the 3-10-30 rule. this means to raise 3 times bb u need at least 10bb, to reraise a raise u need at least 30 bb, i was right on the cutoff of this rule and my goal was more about the blinds than doubling my stack so i decided to just raise. it really just depends on your style of tournament play, it was not an awful play in my eyes.

tjb111 · forum BAP bumper Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 3783

in MTTs i try to go by M standards.

since there are a ton of antes there now (prob 2.4k?) that adds a significant amnt of cash to the pot, and id want to be shoving wit more than 10BBs because of it

at this level i try to go with 3xBB from LAST LEVEL. if im raising at all btw. this will try to keep me from not being pot committed,while still completing the job

dain32 · High Card Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 14

Ya the blinds were around there, in the right state of mind i fold that preflop early in position, but i was on a very dry streak of cards and needed to take risks. To add to that, it was my first time playing the 750k, i usually see a first place prize of 1500 in my 11 buck tourny. i won a sattelite to the 750k and make it to under 200 and look at a 136k first place prize, haha it really messed with my head.

alew22 · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject:

M~4.......shove or fold pre homie. I don't really see any other way to play the hand, or any way to argue this fact.

alew22 · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:39 pm Post subject:

tjb111 · forum BAP bumper Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 3783

dain32 · High Card Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 14

u guys are right.....need to quit making excuses for my mistakes when i know i made them.

dain32 · High Card Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 14

in "kill everyone" the book they call the M "chip stack index" CSI, i have a chart on my wall of the pushing stage and it is 7 CSI or less, and ive read that book 3 times haha....hate mistakes

JDizzzle72 · Message Board Junkie Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 5117

shove/fold. i fold.

tracysanders · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:22 am Post subject:

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