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JagNole88 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 1066 Location: Tally, FL
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:21 am Post subject: Line check please, $3.30 KO semi deep |
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No reads on villain. I had been trying to play more hands so I was seeing the flop about 20%. I don't remember exactly but there were between 15-25 people left.
barhopper_1 (SB): t5210 M = 3.66
Hero (BB): t21435 M = 15.04
NikKom1980 (UTG): t9407 M = 6.60
RIOTYSON (UTG+1): t38635 M = 27.11
RiverRattinITUP (MP): t4855 M = 3.41
Rablerr (CO): t2990 M = 2.10
sotexconn (BTN): t9815 M = 6.89
Pre Flop: (t1425) Hero is BB with 9 8
4 folds, sotexconn raises to t1200, 1 fold, Hero calls t600
Flop: (t3225) 6 7 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, sotexconn bets t1200, Hero raises to t3350, sotexconn calls t2150
Turn: (t9925) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets t3600, sotexconn calls t3600
River: (t17125) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t3000, sotexconn calls t1590 all in |
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MattVegasPwn Message Board Junkie
Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 1051
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I'm shoving the turn since he has about a 1/2 pot size bet behind, and we will get more value from draws that he wont stack off the river with when he misses and keeps his 1500 or whatever it was.
Yeah people are that bad. |
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JDizzzle72 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 5117
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| shove turn, rest is fine. if he calls any bet OTT he calls a shove. and you never bet turn and fold later |
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tracysanders I EAT MTTs
Joined: 02 Apr 2008 Posts: 8599 Location: ANOTHER FUQQUIN MINCASH
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:06 am Post subject: |
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fold preflop n00b
ship it |
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francois8 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 10 Jun 2008 Posts: 3922 Location: getting bent over the bubble
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| tracysanders wrote: |
| fold preflop n00b |
Really? Man I love this hand here with 4.3:1 pot odds and relative stacks vs. button ATC raise. I agree with the call pf, the check raise OTF, and I can't think of a better turn card than this to shove other than one that gives us the straight. Put the pressure on the shorter stack to call all in here. |
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doyle11 Full House
Joined: 29 Jul 2005 Posts: 198
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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| checkraise preflop is a bit weak...call preflop was defintely right...ya if u checkraise on the flop make it a bit bigger or leading out for about 3000 is fine too but the checkraise is prefered. I think allin is a good move on the flop instead of 2150. |
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JagNole88 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 1066 Location: Tally, FL
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| TBH I don't really know why I didn't push the turn, I know it's right play. I guess I was caught a little off guard when he just called my c/r. I was expecting a push/fold. |
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Peepers_au Message Board Junkie
Joined: 15 Feb 2008 Posts: 1525 Location: Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 3:43 am Post subject: |
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| Definitely push the turn. |
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JagNole88 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 12 Jan 2009 Posts: 1066 Location: Tally, FL
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks guys, he had JJ fwiw. Didn't really expect that. |
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goomlah Message Board Junkie
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Posts: 1295 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Jacks? Am I the only person thinks villain played this like a complete moron? Having that said, you're probably not folding after that flop anyway. |
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alew22 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 17 Jan 2009 Posts: 1253 Location: Beantown
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| doyle11 wrote: |
| checkraise preflop is a bit weak...call preflop was defintely right...ya if u checkraise on the flop make it a bit bigger or leading out for about 3000 is fine too but the checkraise is prefered. I think allin is a good move on the flop instead of 2150. |
i wasn't aware you could checkraise before the flop...... |
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tjb111 forum BAP bumper
Joined: 26 Jun 2008 Posts: 3783
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| alew22 wrote: |
| doyle11 wrote: |
| checkraise preflop is a bit weak...call preflop was defintely right...ya if u checkraise on the flop make it a bit bigger or leading out for about 3000 is fine too but the checkraise is prefered. I think allin is a good move on the flop instead of 2150. |
i wasn't aware you could checkraise before the flop...... |
there are secrets of poker uve never even dreamed about |
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adam27x Message Board Junkie
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 4984 Location: New York/New Jersey
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| you're 15bbs deep so your implied odds with a suited connector mean nothing, not to mention you're OOP and readless...I fold pre. |
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bleffo19 Message Board Junkie
Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 1517 Location: SYD, Australia
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Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| adam27x wrote: |
| you're 15bbs deep so your implied odds with a suited connector mean nothing, not to mention you're OOP and readless...I fold pre. |
do you mean you're effectively 15BB's deep, or your M is 15? OP has 35BB's with an M of 15, and BTN raiser has 15BB's |
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adam27x Message Board Junkie
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 4984 Location: New York/New Jersey
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 12:58 am Post subject: |
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| we're effectively 15bbs deep with the BTN, in other words, we have hardly any implied odds with a hand like 98s, which gets most of its value from implied odds |
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