Online Poker Forum - When to get out of the game

AA_Slick_AA · Pair Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 46

Had a player come to my table who went all-in every hand for 25-30 hands, long story short I increased my buy-in of $4 to around $17 quickly..Normally I would get out pretty quick, but before I could really think about it the hand below came up..

My question is what is the recommened point to step out of the game? 3 or 4 times your buy-in? Or stick to never leaving if your playing well etc?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Converter Tool from

CO ($3)
Button ($17.94)
Hero (SB) ($17.94)
BB ($9.95)
UTG ($11.21)
UTG+1 ($3.25)
MP1 ($1.70)
MP2 ($10.25)
MP3 ($2)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J

, J

UTG calls $0.10, 5 folds, Button calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.40) J

, 9

, 8

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.20, Button calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, 1 fold

Turn: ($1) 5

(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.30, Button raises to $1.30, Hero calls $1.30, 1 fold

River: ($3.90) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, Button raises to $16.34 (All-In), Hero calls $12.84 (All-In)

Total pot: $36.58 | Rake: $2

Results:
Button had 6

, 7

(straight flush, nine high).
Hero had J

, J

(full house, Jacks over eights).
Outcome: Button won $34.58

NilesMonkey · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject:

1. Why are you buying in for $4 at a 10nl table?
2. Raise pre.

AA_Slick_AA · Pair Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 46

fletch_smf · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject:

AA_Slick_AA · Pair Joined: 30 Sep 2009 Posts: 46

Thanks for the advice

tiltslowplayer · Full House Joined: 25 Aug 2009 Posts: 213

You were too timid preflop and let that guy enter cheaply with 76s.
Next, you did nothing with that flop eventhough it was a flop that screamed str8 draw for someone. Heck, anyone will a 10 would have likely called any raise, but you probably would have scared away the 76 bottom end of the str8 draw.
After that, the guy had a str8 and flush draw and since this is FT he was not going away for cheap.

deadmeat82 · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject:

If you're on a bankroll mission then chris ferguson's BRM clearly outlines how to handle deciding when to stay and go on cash tables.

IIRC he says not to buy in for more than 5% of your bankroll and to leave whenever your money on the table represents 10% of your roll.

Personally I feel like if you're not in some kind of dire straights as far as BR is concerned you should stay as long as you are outplaying your opponents. You can also set yourself a stoploss on losing portions of your winnings where you leave if you dip below $X. However, that wouldn't have helped given the hand you posted, and how you played it.

ohsnapzbrah · Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject:

Play until you don't feel like playing anymore.

stlbirds13 · Straight Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 101

weird considence but you both had 17.94 before the hand, like others have said if you buy in for the full ten and double up to 20 off the guy thats always pushing then taken 10 more off of him you are up to 30. Then when you lose this hand you are back down to 12 and still up $2. Not to mention a stack with 17 or 18 can really bully you around with only $4, you have to be far more selective with starting hands and will be priced in on a lot of draws

Timdef2000 · Pair Joined: 01 Aug 2009 Posts: 24

raise pre, raise turn?

muzmund · Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:20 pm Post subject:

raise pre, bet the flop. don't let anyone in on the cheap

Pistantan · High Card Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Posts: 2

First and foremost, I hate JJ... I had a similar situation like you did early on my "career" and that made me conscious that:

- A pocket pair, even if AA is still only a pair
- JJ are beat by way too many cards, in my case a Q2 beat me bad. I've been looking on my stats and found that I actually won more hands with 9-10s than with JJ, but I suck at poker, so no real example there Laughing

Anyway, my point being that I personally play pocket jacks like I do pocket tens. No difference at all, raise preflop, if anyone reraises I drop em. End of story.

About the question as to when to leave I'm lame. At the second I double up my initial stack I'm quicker than Usain Bolt leaving the room, but I'm trying to create a bank roll, and like someone said, it all depends. For me this works although sometimes it's really hard to press the damn Leave Room button. But then again, after getting my first $50 into $90 in 2 sessions I dropped to under $25 from getting greedy with hands like JJ or TT or AJ or AQ. After hitting my head on the wall I imposed some rules and in 3 days I got back to $70.

If you can control yourself and not be too eager to drop all your chips into the pot based on "instinct", then by all means, you should stay at the table, otherwise get out of it.

Just the 2 cents from noob.

Rook1969 · Full House Joined: 10 Oct 2009 Posts: 158

It's been said. Raise pre, fold to 3 bet. bet the flop good, stop trying to trap with a set. If everyone folds to your raise, you won the hand. Remember, suck outs only work in your favor if you didn't already have the best hand at the beginning.

superfly_si · High Card Joined: 11 May 2009 Posts: 11

If anyones already said this then I apologise. But i tend to find giving a response before reading everyone else's is usually better..

When should you leave a table? Well unless you've been on a really long breakeven stretch and want to book yourself a win (which there is nothing wrong with from time to time) whenever you feel uncfortable playing with the Stack you have in front of you. I know that when I get over 300bb deep i don't feel as comfortable playing my stack as I do when i'm 100bb deep.

Other than that you should leave the table if:

A good aggro player sits to your left
more than 2 people (edit: 3/4 full ring) are short stacked (in your case maybe not such an important issue)
You have lost concentration and/or you're feeling tilted/tired

As far as this hand goes: Raise that **** up pre!

you flop top set against an up and down that happens to turn a str8 flush.

Meh...not much you can do here, if the villain was a total drooler like you say i'd raise more pre, and try and get your chips in while you still have some equity. OK the result would of been the same but I would certainly felt a lot better about the way I played the hand if I hadn't of got my money in dead.

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