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Larkemi
High Card
Joined: 29 Oct 2009
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 Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:16 pm Post subject: Why Full Tilt Pokers Flops Aren't Real, They Only Rob the Best Hand! |
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Why is it that on this site the best hand gets sucked out more often than not? In real play and on other sites hands that have a high percentage of winning.....win! Here on FTP the high percentage hands lose to moderate and less than moderate hands and to make this bitter pill worse, it’s usually on the flop!
I know that I speak the truth because so many comments I see in games and tourneys back it up. I play real tourneys all the time and have never seen flops like the Bull Crap flops you see here. Once in a while you see AA or AK get cracked but you might as well have a pair of ducks or crabs on FTP. I have seen the fall of pocket Kings and Queens with a flop that provides them with a three of a kind but also gives some loser (who shouldn't even be in the hand) a flush and or straight draw. If this was a once in a while thing I would understand but this will happen in every tourney and if you hang at any ring game.
I have withdrawn all my money from this site and will only play using points and play money when I play if I play here again. In my opinion, FTP wants good players to come and get robbed to keep the crap players spending their money in tourney after tourney. That’s why this good player will not spend anymore money here on this site. |
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Sand Wedge_100
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Joined: 27 Sep 2007
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well dont go allin with the best hand from now on.
Please put your money back in FTP we will miss you so much
And you post here in the forum so-----oh 1st post NM.
IN b4 move |
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fletch_smf
Message Board Junkie
Joined: 06 Jun 2008
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Location: Brisneyland
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Why Full Tilt Pokers Flops Aren't Real, They Only Rob the Best Hand! |
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| Larkemi wrote: |
| Why is it that on this site the best hand gets sucked out more often than not? |
It doesn't
| Larkemi wrote: |
| In real play and on other sites hands that have a high percentage of winning.....win! |
Sure.
| Larkemi wrote: |
| Here on FTP the high percentage hands lose to moderate and less than moderate hands and to make this bitter pill worse, it’s usually on the flop! |
Incorrect.
| Larkemi wrote: |
| I know that I speak the truth because so many comments I see in games and tourneys back it up. |
Yes, the heresay from other people is all the evidence you need. Rather then the statistics from hands you've actually played.
| Larkemi wrote: |
| I play real tourneys all the time and have never seen flops like the Bull Crap flops you see here. |
You need to pay more attention, then.
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| Once in a while you see AA or AK get cracked but you might as well have a pair of ducks or crabs on FTP. |
Define "once in a while"
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| I have seen the fall of pocket Kings and Queens with a flop that provides them with a three of a kind but also gives some loser (who shouldn't even be in the hand) a flush and or straight draw. |
Me too. What's your point?
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| If this was a once in a while thing I would understand but this will happen in every tourney and if you hang at any ring game. |
Again, how often do you think this should happen?
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| I have withdrawn all my money from this site and will only play using points and play money when I play if I play here again. |
Okay.
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| In my opinion, FTP wants good players to come and get robbed to keep the crap players spending their money in tourney after tourney. That’s why this good player will not spend anymore money here on this site. |
Do you think you're one of the good players that is getting robbed?! Ahh, I think we've got to the bottom of the problem here. See, you actually suck at the game. You're one of the crap players. That's the real reason you lose money. |
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Burberry Check
Two Pair
Joined: 09 Aug 2009
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| The reason hands don't seem to get cracked as much live is probably because most people tend to be more aggressive online. They play worse hands more often. Its a lot easier to just hit a button that to sit across from someone and bet real chips. Online is a completely different game. If you haven't figured that out maybe you should just stick to live. |
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MattVegasPwn
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Joined: 15 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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Bump for riggggggggggggged proof!!!!!!!
Full Tilt Poker, PL Hold'em Tournament, 1,000/2,000 Blinds, 5 Players
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Hero (BB): 61,900
UTG: 42,308
CO: 72,728
BTN: 74,284
SB: 67,372
Pre-Flop: (3,000) K K dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG raises to 5,000, CO raises to 18,000, 2 folds, Hero raises to 60,000 and is All-In, UTG folds, CO raises to 72,728 and is All-In, Hero calls 1,900 and is All-In
Flop: (129,800) 9 5 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Turn: (129,800) 3 (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
River: (129,800) K (2 Players - 1 is All-In)
Results: 129,800 Pot
Hero showed K K (three of a kind, Kings) and LOST (-61,900 NET)
CO showed 5 5 (a flush, King high) and WON 129,800 (+67,900 NET) |
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Blackray
Royal Flush
Joined: 20 Mar 2008
Posts: 856
Location: Bergen, Norway
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: Re: Why Full Tilt Pokers Flops Aren't Real, They Only Rob the Best Hand! |
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| Larkemi wrote: |
| That’s why this bad player will not spend anymore money here on this site. |
FYP |
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Flying_Kiwi
Bird of Mystery
Joined: 03 Sep 2006
Posts: 8457
Location: Spewing bonus $
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| It's the dickens. |
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kwik
Royal Flush
Joined: 30 Nov 2008
Posts: 676
Location: long island, ny
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| the OP is right and he made the right move by withdrawing...don't waste your cash on this site!!! one other thing OP the play games here are horrible also, you are better off checking out another site. gl dude |
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francois8
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Joined: 10 Jun 2008
Posts: 3922
Location: getting bent over the bubble
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:47 am Post subject: Re: Why Full Tilt Pokers Flops Aren't Real, They Only Rob the Best Hand! |
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| Somewhere in that OP, it looks like you mentioned that your AK got "cracked" by a pair of ducks... if you didn't suck at poker you would know that 22 is actually a slight favorite over AK. |
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muzmund
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Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Location: Rakeback Wilderness, England
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:13 am Post subject: Re: Why Full Tilt Pokers Flops Aren't Real, They Only Rob the Best Hand! |
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| Larkemi wrote: |
Why is it that on this site the best hand gets sucked out more often than not? In real play and on other sites hands that have a high percentage of winning.....win! Here on FTP the high percentage hands lose to moderate and less than moderate hands and to make this bitter pill worse, it’s usually on the flop!
I know that I speak the truth because so many comments I see in games and tourneys back it up. I play real tourneys all the time and have never seen flops like the Bull Crap flops you see here. Once in a while you see AA or AK get cracked but you might as well have a pair of ducks or crabs on FTP. I have seen the fall of pocket Kings and Queens with a flop that provides them with a three of a kind but also gives some loser (who shouldn't even be in the hand) a flush and or straight draw. If this was a once in a while thing I would understand but this will happen in every tourney and if you hang at any ring game.
I have withdrawn all my money from this site and will only play using points and play money when I play if I play here again. In my opinion, FTP wants good players to come and get robbed to keep the crap players spending their money in tourney after tourney. That’s why this good player will not spend anymore money here on this site. |
You have the statistical information and strong evidence to back this allegations I assume. Please share. |
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deadmeat82
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Location: rakeback 4 all
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| Burberry Check wrote: |
| The reason hands don't seem to get cracked as much live is probably because most people tend to be more aggressive online. They play worse hands more often. Its a lot easier to just hit a button that to sit across from someone and bet real chips. Online is a completely different game. If you haven't figured that out maybe you should just stick to live. |
Plus online there aren't any 6'7" ex linebackers gonna wait for you in the parking lot for doing so. |
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ripped 247
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| Why Do You Capitalise Every Word In Your Post Title? |
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uconnrounder
Two Pair
Joined: 13 Jul 2008
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| See...if this were the case, the last thing you should be doing is complaining. You should obviously be playing crappy hands to take advantage of the rigged nature of FT. I do believe you've stumbled upon the golden goose my friend. J2o here I come! |
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Parkinho
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Joined: 19 Jul 2008
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Location: England
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It amazes me - people everywhere posting in the chatbox and in the forum that Full Tilt is rigged BUT... If it were really rigged in favour of some lucky group of illuminati why the hell don't you ever get anyone saying "Jeez, Full Tilt is GREAT. Made my first deposit six months ago and have played and won 20 S&G's a day ever since!". If it is rigged against people then surely it must be rigged FOR someone right? Otherwise where is all the money going? Hmmmm..(!)
Of course, we have all seen the posts that say Ivey and Antonius win all of the money. That maaay be true but I don't recall ever seeing them playing at the lower stakes tables... 
Silly me, I have overlooked the well known Evil Tilt-Bots, scourge of the $2 S&G tables...  |
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JDizzzle72
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