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Gaminator22 Two Pair
Joined: 01 Mar 2009 Posts: 57
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:29 am Post subject: Hold Em Manager Plugging Leaks |
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Hi
I'm trying to analyse my game by using the plugging leaks stats on Hold Em Manager.
Does anyone know where I can find ideal stats to check my stats against for Full Ring 2NL
I know that ideal stats vary depending on the table but it should help me see if I'm in the right ballpark.
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VRod105 Royal Flush
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 973 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:40 am Post subject: |
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It depends on if you are playing Full Ring, 6 Max. Are you trying to play NITty, TAG, LAG. Also you need a large hand sample to measure yourself.
Give us the info and post your VPIP, PFR, AGG, 3Bet, 3Bet Succcess, Steal, Steal Success, WTSD, W$SD and we will comment.
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Gaminator22 Two Pair
Joined: 01 Mar 2009 Posts: 57
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Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: |
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I'm playing Full Ring and trying to play TAG
VPIP - 19.9
PFR - 12.3
AGG - 2.7
3 Bet - 3.6
3 Bet Success - 11.1 (Is this the % of times I get everyone to fold with a 3 bet?)
Steal - 42.1
Steal Success - 47.6
WTSD - 25.3
W$SD - 44.0
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conanav Royal Flush
Joined: 02 Sep 2007 Posts: 814 Location: Anywhere but here.
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 3:47 am Post subject: |
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I play 6max but for a FR your numbers seem great, your %VPIP and PFR% could be closer together and a bit lower i.e. your tight in EP should be really tight, but since it is 2max and FR and a lot of people are limp-calling, there is no real reason to raise your drawing hands in position preflop so the numbers are still good. As far as your steal % and 3bet the numbers seem fine. If you are not making money playing this way, your faults are most likely in your postflop play.
Also how big of a sample was this? |
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Gaminator22 Two Pair
Joined: 01 Mar 2009 Posts: 57
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:16 am Post subject: |
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I'm making some money - 6.18 big blinds per 100 hands
Sample is only a little over 5000 hands though. Not the biggest sample in the world I admit but I want to get leaks out of my game before playing 50K of losing poker.
Think I need to play real real tight in early posistion like you say, and I think I need to work more on getting value when I'm ahead |
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VRod105 Royal Flush
Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 973 Location: St. Louis, MO
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Your trinity (VPIP, PFR, AGG) are well in line for a FR TAG. Some players look for a PFR that is 75% of their VPIP.
I would look at your 3Bet numbers. Do you have a Fold To 3Bet% in your HUD? Target players with a high fold to 3Bet. Attack players that open 3x or Pot from EP / MO while set mining. Are most of your 3 Bets with position?
Your Steal numbers look great. When stealing watch the players in the blinds and steal from the NITs and TAGs.
Which HUD are you using HEM / PT3? |
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drtre1987 Forum Farmacist
Joined: 07 Nov 2006 Posts: 3218
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Your Steal numbers look great. When stealing watch the players in the blinds and steal from the NITs and TAGs.
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you should also steal from people who you can outplay postflop. just because someone in the blinds is really loose doesn't mean you don't want to open with something semi junky OTB. if they are the type to fold to a lot of cbets or 2 barrels, then opening the button with a wide range is going to be even more profitable than it will to open against a tag or nit. |
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adam27x Message Board Junkie
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Posts: 4986 Location: New York/New Jersey
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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| and even if they're a huge 90/4 fish I'm still opening with a really wide range because whenever I flop something I can stack them. |
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Gaminator22 Two Pair
Joined: 01 Mar 2009 Posts: 57
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Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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Yea isolating fish is something I've picked up on - you can stack them quite a lot, you can even be lucky enough for someone to push top pair on a flushing board!
I was thinking I need to 3 bet more - great suggestion V-Rod, will add that to my HUD so I can target my 3 bets properly. My 3 bets are generally only with big pairs or AK so it's about the same regardless of posistion, a little more in late.
I'm using Hold Em Manager HUD
I'm also thinking I need to C-bet more (currently 61.4) as it's succesful 52.4 against 1 player and 37.3 against 2 players. It only needs to be succesful 33.3% of the time to break even if you keep the bet at 1/2 pot size I believe.
Thanks for the help everyone, this is really gonna help |
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