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dcdoorknob
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I'm probably in push/fold mode with anything less than 15 BBs really.
The k7s and 77 hands are both preflop shoves, and neither is close. |
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fat rugger
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:45 pm Post subject: |
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| dcdoorknob wrote: |
I'm probably in push/fold mode with anything less than 15 BBs really.
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I think that 12-15bb effective stack it is a little more opponent and situation dependent. If I end up against someone who is only playing back with premium hands I would rather steal with 2.5x as opposed to 15bb. If I have opponents who are going to shove over my steal pretty light then I am just open shoving.
Blind vs Blind I see open shoving <15bb to be pretty standard
Just the way I try to play obv. |
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Just finished my 2nd SNG and have to admit I'm a little pissed. This is the second game in a row that I've drawn dead. My best hand the entire game was 99 and the table I was at was VERY aggressive and with good hands to go with it. UGH!!! I had no shot ... I was getting blinded out and finally had to go all in with K/10 had 2 calls... one caught trips and the other caught high pair "A's"
Not really sure what I should be doing against a table like this when I'm not getting cards... It was very frustrating watching had after hand being folded... I didn't dare trying to buy a pot because these people didn't fold for anything... and usually had a hand... Ok off for my next game I really hope I catch some f'ing cards this time....
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:14 am Post subject: |
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HH #1 for game 4
No real read yet but table seemed a little tight.
From start to finish did I play this right? What should I have done dif. if played wrong? As always thanks.
jae
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 20/40 Blinds (8 handed) - Converter Tool from
SB (t620)
BB (t795)
UTG (t2980)
UTG+1 (t2485)
MP1 (t1260)
MP2 (t2315)
Hero (CO) (t1440)
Button (t1605)
Hero's M: 24.00
Preflop: Hero is CO with K , A
3 folds, MP2 calls t40, Hero bets t175, 3 folds, MP2 calls t135
Flop: (t410) 6 , 9, 6 (2 players)
MP2 bets t160, Hero calls t160
Turn: (t730) A (2 players)
MP2 bets t400, Hero raises to t1105 (All-In), 1 fold |
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:31 am Post subject: |
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HH #2 from game 4
Table continues to be tight... no one seems to be raising much and when someone does they fold.
When this hand was being played I really had no idea what to do with it. I was out of possition and limped in to see a flop... maybe catch something... I didn't want to push to hard with this hand ...but when the raise came and everyone folded I called because he was short stack and figured him to have A/X at this point.
I don't want to write a novel so what should I have done to begin with and was my call on the raise right or wrong?
I'm confussed as to how to play 10/10 out of possition... I was afraid to play them to be honest...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (8 handed) - Converter Tool from
MP2 (t600)
CO (t735)
Button (t2675)
SB (t880)
BB (t1260)
UTG (t1880)
Hero (UTG+1) (t2235)
MP1 (t3235)
Hero's M: 29.80
Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 10, 10
UTG calls t50, Hero calls t50, 3 folds, Button calls t50, SB bets t880 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero calls t830, 1 fold |
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drkato
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Jae, from game 1, all of those hands are open shoving hands imo.
From game 4, HH 1 is kinda strange. Villain is donk betting you, and the bet amount is funky. At his level, God only knows what his donk bet means, but the shove is a nice aggressive reply to it, and I like it. HH 2, as with most hands, you want to be the AGGRESSOR, so lead out with a raise here. It also helps you better odds to call shorty's shove. You goal is always to make your decisions easier. |
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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| drkato wrote: |
Jae, from game 1, all of those hands are open shoving hands imo.
From game 4, HH 1 is kinda strange. Villain is donk betting you, and the bet amount is funky. At his level, God only knows what his donk bet means, but the shove is a nice aggressive reply to it, and I like it. HH 2, as with most hands, you want to be the AGGRESSOR, so lead out with a raise here. It also helps you better odds to call shorty's shove. You goal is always to make your decisions easier. |
Thanks for the advise. I'm getting better but every once in awhile I slip back into my bad habit of limping in... You play a certain way for a long time and it's hard to break away from it completely... I also find myself limping in when I'm not sure what I should be doing (with certain cards in certain possitions. 10/10 was a perfect example... didn't know how to properly play them out of possition.) I will keep working on this tho.
again thank you. |
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goomlah
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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teammate, bet 4x with the 10's and call the shove. The way most $2.25's are, he probably has a hand that you crush or are a 70% fave with.
As for AK, standard. If he bet more OTF you'd have a decision to make though. |
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| goomlah wrote: |
teammate, bet 4x with the 10's and call the shove. The way most $2.25's are, he probably has a hand that you crush or are a 70% fave with.
As for AK, standard. If he bet more OTF you'd have a decision to make though. |
Thanks and nice read... villain had A/2 os |
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WPTfuji
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| hi jae jae jae. i think this is a cool idea but its hard to tell w/o seeing entire hand histories. ill try to make it so that i can record videos and upload them to my blog (http://fujithefish.com/) sometime soon. |
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Game 5 HH
Villian wasn't playing well up to this point.
Did I push this to hard or should I have played differently?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 30/60 Blinds (7 handed) - Converter Tool from
UTG (t2075)
MP1 (t1760)
MP2 (t1815)
CO (t1045)
Hero (Button) (t3410)
SB (t585)
BB (t2810)
Hero's M: 37.89
Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8
3 folds, CO calls t60, Hero bets t180, 2 folds, CO calls t120
Flop: (t450) 6, 3, 5 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets t870, CO calls t865 (All-In)
Turn: (t2180) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)
River: (t2180) A (2 players, 1 all-in)
Total pot: t2180 |
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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HH game 5
F me!! Bubbled on this hand... Table had been super tight... wanted action so didn't raise to much... well I got action but got a crap flop...
Still wanted to keep him around after flop so I didn't push... wouldn't have mattered if I did...
What I'm taking away from this is ... tight table or not bet the AA harder...
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 2.25 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (4 handed) - Converter Tool from
SB (t3620)
BB (t3930)
UTG (t3255)
Hero (Button) (t2695)
Hero's M: 8.98
Preflop: Hero is Button with A, A
1 fold, Hero bets t600, 1 fold, BB calls t400
Flop: (t1300) Q, 6, 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1300, BB raises to t3330 (All-In), Hero calls t795 (All-In)
Turn: (t5490) 7 (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (t5490) K (2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: t5490
Results:
Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
BB had Q, 6 (two pair, Queens and sixes).
Outcome: BB won t5490 |
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goomlah
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| nah just moronic really |
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Ozzy52
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:05 am Post subject: |
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last rwo hands are played fine.
There may be an argument to raise the 88 hand to 210 pre but that's just nit-picking really.
Villan prolly caught his set OTF or something like 10 10 ? if it is anything else he is a tit.
AA hand is just unlucky. I don't hate villans call with Q6s at this point tho.
Looking good so far dude, just need a bit of fortune and you're set.
Do me a favour tho. When you get to 6th place and down towards the bubble, post some hands you are folding, mebbie ones you are not sure about.
One of my leaks was hands that I was throwing away that were actually playable. |
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jaejaejae
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:52 am Post subject: |
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| Ozzy52 wrote: |
last rwo hands are played fine.
There may be an argument to raise the 88 hand to 210 pre but that's just nit-picking really.
Villan prolly caught his set OTF or something like 10 10 ? if it is anything else he is a tit.
AA hand is just unlucky. I don't hate villans call with Q6s at this point tho.
Looking good so far dude, just need a bit of fortune and you're set.
Do me a favour tho. When you get to 6th place and down towards the bubble, post some hands you are folding, mebbie ones you are not sure about.
One of my leaks was hands that I was throwing away that were actually playable. |
Excellent read Ozzy... he had pocket 5's luckily he was short stack and I could afford the beat.
Will do on the HH thing. Your the second one to mention this so I probably am folding hands I could probably be playing. I just don't know it. goomlah asked me for some HH after my first win in this challenge... He was watching me at the table and he probably saw I was folding on the button more than I should... If I can add this knowledge to my game it would be just another weapon in my favor... This one seems like it will be hard to figure out tho.. because I'm really not sure which HH to chose... I've been posting the hands I question but how do I know which hand I might want to play? I guess I'll just post a bunch as indicated by ozzy and goomlah and you guys can guide me from there...
I'm enjoying this mini challenge and feel like I'm learning quite a bit. (so far I don't feel like I'm embarassing myself and it is helping me stay focussed becuase of that) I have to admit the game seem a bit different than it did just a few weeks ago. A few things that I've noticed:
1. there really aren't as many bad beats as I always thought there were.. I know there are bad beats but even when they happen I'm not nearly as angry.
2. my mind set of limp in and hope to catch a flop (for the most part) is gone (still do it when I don't know how to play a certain hand) but in general I'm learning that if it's a hand worth playing then it's a hand that should be raised..
3. (this is a big one)... feels weird being the guy doing the pushing and making "them" decide if they want action... this concept is completely new to me. The whole limping mentality that I use to have has changed how this game feels...and how the game it's self plays out. Hopefully the next half is a little stronger. |
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