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GNS1310
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Joined: 13 Jul 2008
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 Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:20 pm Post subject: Just fold the AJ here? |
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3.30KO
Blinds 800/1600 Ante 200
Seat 1:(21,877)
Seat 2:(18,882)
Seat 3 9,725)
Seat 4:(14,790)
Seat 56,412)
Seat 6:(13,030)
Seat 7: GNS1310 (49,325, in 1st place, 3-4k lead)
seat 6 posts the small blind of 800
GNS1310 posts the big blind of 1,600
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GNS1310 [As Jh]
S1. raises to 4,800
S2. folds
S3. folds
S4. folds
S5. raises to 6,212, and is all in
S6. folds
GNS1310 calls 4,612
S1. calls 1,412
*** FLOP *** [7c 5h 5d]
GNS1310 checks
S1. checks
*** TURN *** [7c 5h 5d] [Ac]
GNS1310 bets 20,836
S1. calls 15,465, and is all in
GNS1310 shows [As Jh]
S1. shows [5s 5c]
S5. shows [6h 6d]
Uncalled bet of 5,371 returned to GNS1310
*** RIVER *** [7c 5h 5d Ac] [3d]
GNS1310 shows two pair, Aces and Fives
S1. shows four of a kind, Fives
S1. wins the side pot (30,930) with four of a kind, Fives
S5. shows two pair, Sixes and Fives
S1. wins the main pot (20,836) with four of a kind, Fives
If I'm not in the BB, i think I just fold the AJ to the raise. I know I do in fact. Do I check it down and fold to a bet from the quads? Do I fold instead of defending there? |
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GNS1310
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Joined: 13 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Was down to 10 or 11 here...wound up taking 8th place. From 1st to worst in a hurry. Ugh |
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Sand Wedge_100
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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AJ doesnt play well 3 handed & OOP
S1 is gonna call if you only call he probally folds to a shove..
Fold or shove pre.
I personally fold w/o reads. |
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GNS1310
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Joined: 13 Jul 2008
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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The more I think about it, I should have folded. The shove I never even thought about there for some reason, mighta been short on time, crunching numbers, maybe the guy was playing loose. Coulda used my 'time' to think it over a bit more. Tough hand.
Quad flop. Ouch. |
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Big Slick x13x
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Joined: 18 Jun 2006
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Location: The U.S.A.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree that shove or fold is pretty much the only options. Calling sucks. If you think he's shoving light and utg is really loose then isolate w/ AJ. Usually I agree that folding is better. |
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bleffo19
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Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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Location: SYD, Australia
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: |
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| i just open-fold here. AJ is a marginal hand at best, and with an EP raise and a shove, you're definitely behind. fold |
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NilesMonkey
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Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 1529
Location: Schenectady, NY
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The short stacks are sad. lol |
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dcdoorknob
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Joined: 11 May 2007
Posts: 2906
Location: Mississippi
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| Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Big Slick x13x wrote: |
| I agree that shove or fold is pretty much the only options. Calling sucks. If you think he's shoving light and utg is really loose then isolate w/ AJ. Usually I agree that folding is better. |
ditto. |
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MattVegasPwn
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| Seeing how the second raise all in was only 2k more to the orginal raiser, he knows he isnt getting fold equity at, thus making his range alot stronger then some random 3bet shove. Your almost never ahead of his range, easy fold pre, you can find better spots for sure. |
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Clobug
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Joined: 28 Aug 2009
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| ALWAYS fold AJ to 2 shoves. |
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MattVegasPwn
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| Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Clobug wrote: |
| ALWAYS fold AJ to 2 shoves. |
Not true, Dont ALWAYS do anything. Make your chocies based on situation. HERE it seems your really far behind their range. |
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DannehBoi
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Joined: 26 Jan 2009
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Location: Min-cash city
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Clobug wrote: |
| ALWAYS fold AJ to 2 shoves. |
This. ^^ |
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cardfish2
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Joined: 31 Oct 2006
Posts: 1431
Location: Michigan
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| Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| MattElsarelli wrote: |
| Clobug wrote: |
| ALWAYS fold AJ to 2 shoves. |
Not true, Dont ALWAYS do anything. Make your chocies based on situation. HERE it seems your really far behind their range. |
Perhaps always is too strong a word but for the most part the advice is solid. |
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