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adam27x
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 Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:21 pm Post subject: Differences between the different ring game limits |
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What razz limits are considered micro, small, mid, and high stakes?
For example, NLHE is micro up to 50NL, small from 100NL to 200NL, mid from 400NL to 600NL, and high for 1000NL+.
Just because I have the roll to play 3/6 or 5/10 or whatever doesn't mean that I'm good enough to beat those games, obviously. I like to occasionally play razz and I think I'm decent but I'm surely not as good at it as I am at NLHE and I don't have nearly as much experience at razz.
What levels of razz are comparable to a specific level of NLHE? Is 50NL similar to $1/$2 or $2/$4 or something else? The 7-game would pair 50NL with $1/$2 but that doesn't mean they are equally difficult. |
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finknik
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Micro= $0.05/$0.10 and $0.10/$0.20
Low= $0.25/$0.50 and $0.50/$1
Medium= $1/$2 and $2/$4 and $3/$6
High= 5/10 and 8/16 and 10/20 and 15/30 and 20/40 and 30/60
Ivey's Room= 50/100 and 100/200 and 300/600 and 500/1000 and 1k/2k. |
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adam27x
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:02 am Post subject: |
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Micro= $0.05/$0.10 and $0.10/$0.20
Low= $0.25/$0.50 and $0.50/$1
Medium= $1/$2 and $2/$4 and $3/$6
High= 5/10 and 8/16 and 10/20 and 15/30 and 20/40 and 30/60
Ivey's Room= 50/100 and 100/200 and 300/600 and 500/1000 and 1k/2k. |
that's not really what I'm looking for as they have similar sayings for NLHE, which are completely inaccurate. They call 200nl midstakes when it's really small stakes and 25nl small stakes when it's really microstakes.
I'm being sort of pedantic and nit picky, but it's for a reason. As far as I know, most razz players still consider .50/1 a micro limit. I think I'm decent at razz and I have a roll that's probably big enough to play higher than I can handle as I'm definitely not as good at it as I am at NLHE. I would still like to play razz every once in awhile, but I definitely couldn't handle razz's equivalent of NLHE's midstakes games. |
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finknik
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| 2/4 and 3/6 is where the players start getting better. I would consider those mid stakes. The buy in at 3/6 razz is the same as a mid stake NLHE game. I would say the place for you to have fun at razz now and then would be 1/2. It's not very expensive, and the players aren't that great. |
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francois8
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Adam, I'd agree with this last post. I've played some Razz up to 3/6 and 5/10, and players there start to get better. The strange thing was that at the 0.25/0.50 limit Razz, and you actually have people there who can think a bit but don't have too much of a roll.
I found the 1/2 to actually be quite soft and beatable with a basic understanding of the game / poker in general. Of course starting with 4 wheel cards before catching the dreaded triple brick of face card, face card, pair makes me want to break things in razz more than any other game since you don't have much fold equity on the end.
If I were you, I'd play some 1/2 or 2/4 or both, depending on which games were available when you want to play. |
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adam27x
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| finknik wrote: |
| 2/4 and 3/6 is where the players start getting better. I would consider those mid stakes. The buy in at 3/6 razz is the same as a mid stake NLHE game. I would say the place for you to have fun at razz now and then would be 1/2. It's not very expensive, and the players aren't that great. |
A buy-in at 3/6 razz is about $120, which is definitely a small stakes NLHE buy-in. A midstakes NLHE buy-in is at least $400, which is like a $10/$20 razz buy-in. Arguing over this stuff is dumb. 
Thanks for the advice though, guys. The $1/$2 and $2/$4 games are the ones I've been dabbling in, and I didn't think I should just go play $3/$6 because I have the roll to do so. |
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